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'Gun-loving' GOP governor reportedly seen 'running scared for his life' from mass shooting
(www.rawstory.com)
this post was submitted on 15 Feb 2024
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This strikes me as like implying that I'm hypocritical because I support gay marriage, but then turned down a man who hits on me because im not actually gay.
A person can be pro gun rights and at the same time still be afraid of an active shooter.
It would be ironic to loudly and repeatedly declare "If you don't want to get hit on at a bar, put on that wedding ring" and then get chased out of a bar by a bunch of married men slapping your ass.
A person who stakes their reputation on the phrase "An Armed Society Is A Polite Society" fleeing said armed society for their lack of politeness establishes a certain hypocrisy.
A person fleeing that situation who may well be unarmed is self-preservation, not hypocrisy, regardless of their stance on guns. He is however reaping what he has helped sow. Hypocrisy is simply the wrong word. This isn't the same as being anti-abortion and then paying for your mistress to get one. Being pro-gun doesn't mean you just stand there.
A person who insists everyone should be armed everywhere they go and then isn't armed when he asserts a gun would have been handy is ironic.
Of course not.
A handgun compares to a rifle like a dagger to a sword.
What?
What did you not understand? A pistol is a gun, a rifle is a gun, a Soviet D-20 howitzer is a gun.
You can't be that stupid to call somebody a hypocrite for supporting carry of weapons for self-defense because they ran from a mass shooter with a rifle. People usually don't carry rifles for self-defense.
I don't see this guy making any effort to distinguish between gun and rifle ownership. The Barret .50 plastered on a "Come and Take It" flag was part of the Governor's pro-2A rally display as recently as last October.
Why the hell should he? I mean that it's extremely unlikely he had such kind of an instrument with him during that mass shooting.
Who is saying anything about hypocrisy? This is about the guy feeling the consequences for his shitty policies.
2 of the top 5 comments right now are attacking him for not being the "good guy with a gun" and arguably multiple people have challenged me to defend the implicit claims of hypocrisy. So I disagree the implication isn't there.
Apples to oranges argument and a straw man argument all in one. Bravo sir, brav-fucking-o. Yall never cease to amaze me.
You could explain why, but that would actually take thought and effort and open your position up to being challenged, which is scary. I get it. Empty insults are much easier.
When a gay man "sets his sights" on you, death isn't a possible outcome. So supporting gay people isn't a life threatening position to hold. It's just the right fucking thing to do. However, Being full on pro gun does come with the inevitable death of someone. This politician made it so the exact people who shouldn't have a gun, would have one. If you are a responsible gun owner than good on you. Please by all means keep your guns, but is it truly too much to ask that you at least take the time to be background checked before getting another gun? Or maybe take a few classes on gun safety? Or be legally required to have it stored in a place away from children and the mentally unstable?
It's funny how often it happens that when someone falsely accuses of doing something, they are really projecting what they have already done, or are warning you of what they're about to do.
In this case, attacking a strawman. I certainly did not say that they are equivalent when it comes to life and death. It's like you forgotten basic SAT logic (or whatever equivalent test you took). Square : rectangle is like murder : homicide. This doesn't mean that I think all murders have 4 equal sides and 4 right angles.
I was very clear I was talking about the implicit hypocrisy.
And ftr, I'm a firm supporter of stronger gun regulations so the whole rant about what gun regulations you want has zero to do with the point, and reels of just pandering to the opinion of the typical Lemmy user.
you berate me for not fully explaining my position and then come back with a full explanation of your original comment? Just saying sorry I did see through your initial response and should have been more clear in my first comment. I'll personally try to do better.
First, you were an asshole to me out of the gates, so expecting me to kind to you when you misrepresent my position is kind of bizarre. But never the less, you are correct I should have still stayed respectful, so I too apologize for my response.
But this is what I do when someone doesn't understand, whether it's their fault or mine, I try to explain it another way.
I see this soooo much on Lemmy. even more so than on reddit.