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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was sent to one of those.

I don't know the answers to any of those questions either.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which makes more sense?

  • a distinct skillset of oratory
  • a distinct skillset of abstract thinking about objectives and outcomes (strategy)
  • a distinct skillset of teaching
  • a distinct skillset of managing dialogue
  • a distinct skillset of coordinating people in real time
  • a distinct skillset of mediating and resolving disputes between group members
  • Leadership, which is some mishmash of all or any or none of the above, we say it's a skill but there are no good tests or even any quantitative metrics of it
[–] Owl@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can say for certain that none of the leadership things I've been roped into have been about any of the things you listed under #1.

Maybe "abstract thinking about objectives and outcomes" but that appears to be more, like, a thing that justifies "leaders" existing, rather than something they actually do. If I start actually talking about that sort of thing with leaders they get weird about it.

[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

To back you up, Owl, most of these "leadership" programs are grifts; something along the line of "pay us money so you can think about what it would be like to be in charge," with a light dash of networking. The USian concept of leadership seems to start and end at having enough money and influence to own a business or organization.