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ngl russia is not making it easy to give critical support lol

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

This is one example maybe

People are sharing the video of a Ukrainian song about Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera being sung at the "Pride" thing in Munich and remarking that it's somehow funny, schizophrenic or paradoxical. It is not. Being pro-Ukrainian is an expression of political loyalty toward the American empire, and so is supporting politically organized homosexuality (I don't want to get into discussions about identity vs behavior vs politics, etc, let's just keep it at that term). Politically organized homosexuals all over the world view the USA as a homeland they owe political loyalty to; the USA views them as their citizens or clients whom they have to protect to uphold their reputation as a world power, up to the point of intervening in the politics of sovereign countries, deploying sanctions, etc. In geopolitical terms there is no functional difference between the Ukraine, Taiwan, politically organized homosexuals, Kurds, feminist organizations, Uyghurs, etc. They all act as American client groups and publicly pledging allegiance to their causes is just another way of showing deference to the USA.

RWA is incredibly cringe btw, I don't endorse them, but this point is undeniable.

Or perhaps this video where the Nazis are literaly telling us they stand against liberal values.

Someone walking around with a Ukrainian flag and LGBTQ symbolism is at best a very priveledged liberal completely buying into the idea that western values will come and save them, not realizing the absurdity of this irony. In any case everyone in Russia knows Ukraine is just as socialy conservative as they are.

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

and so is supporting politically organized homosexuality (I don't want to get into discussions about identity vs behavior vs politics, etc, let's just keep it at that term). Politically organized homosexuals all over the world view the USA as a homeland they owe political loyalty to;

I wonder why they don't want to get into that.

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I never said I supported Ukraine, the fuck

Also I refuse to believe in the age of the Internet, mail, and phone lines, that queer western symbolism ONLY spread through NGO’s or western influence. That sounds like total reactionary bullshit to me. This is some insane Nazi homophobe shit. How the fuck would that even happen? NGO’s hunting down anyone who orders a pride flag without joining them?

Edit: Sorry, my reactionary sensor is overtuned and I’m way too hostile here. I’m willing to buy that this is a thing, it just seems super weird.