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I wish this ever worked on Christians with political values on the right side of the spectrum. The fact is they refuse to see the contradictions and don't care.
We've tried to use this logic on family and friends in a loving capacity and it essentially never works. They are the Bootstraps for Thee but Not for Me party. Subsidies are only for the rich who deserve it.
"Jesus helps those who help themselves. Pretty sure that includes elementary school kids in poverty." - conservatives
Which isn't a biblical saying in any translation or text.
It's a saying, just not direct quote.
It's not a biblical passage. It's not a poorly translated passage. It's not anywhere in the Bible. It's a made up platitude by the idiots that brought you the prosperity gospel.
Ok, still doesn't change the fact that it is a saying. I didn't disagree. I said it was a saying.
You are right it is not in the Bible. Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helps_those_who_help_themselves
For some of them, I think it's because they feel a thing first, and then reach for justifications second. If you say something that contradicts their feelings, it won't feel true to them and they won't believe you. It doesn't matter how true it is. They're driven by emotion. It is extremely ironic that the right wing is the one that says stuff like "facts don't care about your feelings".
If you want to change minds, you probably need to make them make emotional connections to the thing you're trying to get them to believe.
Belief is also social, so if you want their beliefs to stick you need to get them away from the group that's believing nonsense/hate/whatever, or they'll go right back.
With them it's always projection.
It works on my parents. They're Catholic though, but Latino so they've voted Republican many, many times. But they don't vote for Trump, and they don't vote for DeSantis. They really the walk, and they think the modern Republican party is completely betshit.