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[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

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In Italy speeding fines are a fixed amount based on how far over the limit you're going, which makes them a regressive tax on going fast - wealthy people can sinply afford to speed as much as they like while the poor suffer. That woman they quoted who clearly thought the cameras would meaningfully deter speeding was full of shit; the cameras are there to generate revenue, not reduce speeding.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just because some rich people can effectively ignore laws does not make fines for breaking those laws a tax. Not being financially able to ignore speed limits isn't "suffering".

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe it's more complex than this: governments have some obligation to create infrastructure that's safe for everybody. Simply slapping a speed camera to fine drivers doesn't make the road safer. By comparison, the Dutch have a terrific way of designing roads in such a way that drivers adapt to the conditions, for instance through the road surface and deliberately placing vegetation near the road to help drivers accurately perceive their speed.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Not everything has to be a debate; my comment is simply there to add to the conversation in the thread. Perhaps it can be argued that speed cameras in themselves are a form of traffic calming.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I love how 'simply respect the speed limit' is often not considered as an option :D

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They don't have punishments like taking away the license (for a time) after a certain amount of fines?

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For some reason you can also pay your way out of it: they take some points from your licence but you can buy them back from driving schools.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

you don't 'buy them back', you attend a paid driving course and obtain some points

[–] lexiw@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

They do. Driving licenses are a point based system, points are taken proportionately to the infraction, they are slowly added over time if no infraction happened in the time range, but there is a cap. Once they get to zero your driving license is suspended.