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Just weeks after hugely disruptive protests and strikes over pension reforms in France finally died down, businesses in the country are grappling with the fallout from a week of rioting.

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[–] Odusei@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We spent four years at war over the death of one man, and twenty years at war over the deaths of three thousand.

And this was not the first black person to be murdered in France by the police like this. The Parisians are responding to a pattern that has not been ended no matter how much they protest.

[–] coffeewithalex@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this was not the first ~~black~~ person to be murdered in France by the police like this.

ok racist.

Pattern? What pattern? Do you have any public data to go with that statement, that shows a problem SO BIG with authorities that it justifies violence? In the last years, 15 people have been killed by police in such incidents. 8 police officers have been charged. Without knowing the details about the rest, how can you claim that it's a systemic problem? You know what a systemic problem looks like? More than 2000 people were killed BY cars in the same period. THAT's a systemic problem. For the scale of this problem however, peaceful protests calling for transparency in these cases, and other constructive demands, should be the reaction, and not this. This? This just shows that France is dealing with violence and gives many people the impression that it's OK if police sometimes kill such violent people. I literally had this conversation with the other side, who tried to convince me that the rioters should be shot or something. 17 year old broke the law driving the vehicle, and recklessly tried to speed away from this. The police officer over-reacted (cars do kill people quite a lot) and should be investigated for manslaughter, but what should not happen is this. Why is it so hard to see? Why are y'all so trigger happy? Maybe because it's not your house that was attacked and your family injured? Maybe because it's not your neighbourhood which got trashed and your business looted?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it racist to have relevant data, like the fact the cop was white or the kid being black.

[–] coffeewithalex@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You make it seem like the race matters in this incident. As if a black person killed is different from a pink person killed. You have preferential treatment of problems based on skin color. That is racist.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the people of France seem to think its part of the issue.

[–] coffeewithalex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And you derive this conclusion on .. what study or poll? Because there are instruments to measure that you know. It's called voting.

Or are you referring to a violent loud minority and saying that it's a majority?