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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Yeah he will be a strong contender and possibly even win, but I would never say he is that far ahead(or at all) of Biden. I think people here learned nothing from the red wave flopping last time and I am already betting early on people here will be surprised Americans are all mostly genocidal freaks looking for any excuse to support war specialy when you almost turn it into some holy war over "American values" against the savage hordes of Russians and Muslims.

The primary issue is still the economy but there is time for Biden to make and or promise concessions before the election still. With all that said Trump offers basicaly nothing over Biden other than maybe swapping Russian/Muslism for Chinese but Biden can press the China button too so idk.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

Less people are gonna come out for Biden than last time and most trimomguys are still trump guys. It's all vibes, no one really cares about issues.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is how i feel about it. I don't think its a lock either way and as of now i think it will be close. I think less people will turn out for Biden than in 2020, but a lot of libs are still going to turn out to vote against Trump firstvand foremost regadless of anything else. And you're right that to a lot of libs the genocide is a plus and Biden is the most progressive president since FDR

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think it's less about the genocide and more about how much hate has grown towards Biden and the Democrats since 2020. New York almost went red in the recent gubernational election, something that it hasn't come close to being for a while. The overall attitude in Upstate New York is similar to how it was around 2016. Most of the complaints are about economy being bad compared to how it was with Trump, money going to Israel and Ukraine, wokeism and what they perceive to be the pushing of trans issues.

You're right about Trump not exactly blowing Biden away. Plenty of libs are primed to vote against Trump and the project 2024 propaganda has worked up some people in marginalized groups enough to go and vote against him. But Biden is still going to see a lower voter turnout.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Biden has blown up his Arab demographic and is losing ground on other non-White demos.

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Americans are all mostly genocidal freaks looking for any excuse to support war

Support war that directly involves the American military. I don’t think Americans care about proxy wars. They all want their Michael Bay movie type wars - their brave American troops bravely vanquishing the cowardly enemy who hates our freedom. Americans absolutely love rallying around the troops and pretending we’re all in this together blah blah blah. Neither Ukraine nor Gaza fit that bill, though. Most Americans don’t want to give Ukraine any money and Biden’s support for Israel is what’s driving his recent nosedive in popularity.