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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess I misunderstood and I respect your decision.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When in doubt, you can always view the modlog. It will show you the full comment and the stated reasons for removal:

https://lemmy.world/modlog

This is all public info, just be aware that a lot of the removed comments are pretty terrible. ;)

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Looked in the modlog. Doesn't seem like that violated rule 3. ~~Seems like you violated rule 6. Gonna ban yourself?~~

Edit: crossed out the bit where I was wrong, but left it for context

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you looked at the modlog you'd see that while the comments were removed, nobody was banned.

Rule 6 states: "No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning"

Nothing in my comments were "hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence or abusive language."

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My apologies, saw the wrong list of rules. My mistake.

Though I never stated or implied that anyone was banned.

Where can the correct rules be viewed? If I look at the rules for this community, the numbers don't line up. And searching for lemmy.world rules doesn't give any useful results.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The rules for each community can be viewed on the Sidebar. How you get there varies depending on how you're... Lemmying? Verbing weirds language.

From the web interface, in each community, there should be a button for "sidebar".

Don't worry about not reading it, most people don't!

Edit And it's my turn to apologize, I quoted you rule 6 from Politics since my head has been stuffed in Politics moderation all night.

Rule 6 for World News is:

"Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time."

Still, nothing in my comments falls under rule 6.

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah I'm confused because I did read it. The sidebar for world news says that this is rule 3

Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.

Which doesn't even make sense to apply to a comment.

And says that this is rule 6

Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.

(I was jokingly accusing you of violating rule 6 because the removed comment could maybe be said to violate that one. It's a bit of a stretch but at least plausible.)

So still kinda confused because you quoted a different rule 6.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's cool, it's late for me and now I have no idea which comment we're talking about. Not one of yours, that's clear, you had one removed 4 months ago for calling someone a "giant asshole" and... yeah, that's removal worthy.

That's actually my contribution to the rule set, and I'm kind of proud of it. :) We aren't shy about strong language, you can totally say the subject of an article is a giant asshole, just don't target it at other users.

That was a problem when Kissinger died... yeah, yeah, no celebrating death, OTOH - Kissinger. We would have had to have banned 1/2 the community. LOL.

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that guy was a giant asshole.

I like your strong language rule. But rule 6 is such a vague catch-all that it basically says "the mods will remove anything they don't like, at any time, with no warning"

Which seems kinda fucked.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The "low effort posting" thing? You're probably right on that. Most of the examples of low effort posting I can think of would be covered under one of the other rules.

One I had to remove yesterday after it got like 14 reports was just a screenshot of a shitty news source, so, yeah, not an article, questionable source, also a low effort post but that was the LEAST of the reasons it was removed.

But it's not a matter of "mods can remove anything", that's what got one of our other mods in trouble. Someone had a comment removed, messaged me going "hey, why was my comment removed?" and my investigation found what seemed like abuse.

I brought in the site Admins going "Hey, this seems above my $0 paygrade." and they took care of it.