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Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft said that while he didn’t want to do it, he had to remind people of how “severe” the situation is.

A top Republican official in Missouri is threatening to remove President Joe Biden from appearing on the ballot as retaliation for the determination in two other states that Donald Trump doesn't qualify because he "engaged in insurrection."

"What has happened in Colorado & Maine is disgraceful & undermines our republic," Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft wrote on the social media site X on Friday. "While I expect the Supreme Court to overturn this, if not, Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!"

Ashcroft's post came shortly after the Supreme Court agreed to review a decision by Colorado's high court that found Trump could be barred from the state's primary ballot because of his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whose democratic options to express themselves is being taken away?

MAGA voters.

why is it white people who are turning to violence

Because they are MAGA voters?

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How are MAGA voters losing the democratic options to express themselves?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

? Not being able to vote for their preferred candidate.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. Are you aware the Constitution sets out requirements for eligibility for president? Just because your feelings say you really want a particular person, it doesn't mean you have a constitutional right to vote for them. For example, maybe I really want Arnold Schwarzenegger for president. Just because I prefer Arnold that does not mean he can be president.

  2. Trumpers could vote for Trump in 2020 and they still staged a violent insurrection. So your point is both stupid and moot.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you aware the Constitution sets out requirements for eligibility for president?

Yes. Trump was impeached for incitement of insurrection but acquitted in the Senate. That's the constitutional rules being followed.

Just because your feelings say you really don't want a particular person, it doesn't mean you have a constitutional right to exclude them.

Trumpers could vote for Trump in 2020 and they still staged a violent insurrection.

Consider how violent Trumpers could get if they couldn't vote.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

acquitted in the Senate

Factually incorrect, either you don't know what is going on, or you're lying. The Senate failed to remove him as president, that is all. There is an ongoing criminal case during which Trump was indicted this past year. There has been no acquittal, contrary to your claim.

Just because your feelings say you really don't want a particular person, it doesn't mean you have a constitutional right to exclude them.

I agree 100%. I don't want Biden or any of the other GOP candidates either. And yet, none of them have so far staged and supported an insurrection. I only think candidates should be discluded based on law.

I'm logically consistent, which is something you are not capable of understanding.

Consider how violent Trumpers could get if they couldn't vote.

Well, Trumpers are extremely delusional and very stupid. So, they will get very violent, even though Trumpers have the most to lose and least to gain from an actual Civil War 2.

One massive trumper delusion is that they are the only ones with guns. In reality, leftists, anarchists, anti-fascists, and communists have a ridiculous amount of firepower stored.

The big difference is that Trumpers paint a big target on themselves and their homes, flying Trump flags and wearing trump merch. Trumpers are not ready to fight a war against an enemy they can't find. They're like the Redcoats of the American Revolution, they are big loud and meant to intimidate, they are not ready to fight an actual bloody war of attrition against an enemy they cannot see.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The Senate failed to remove him as president, that is all.

The charges of insurrection were not upheld.

There is an ongoing criminal case

So not yet found guilty.

I agree 100%. I don't want Biden or any of the other GOP candidates either.

It is very wrong that unaccountable corporations are gatekeepers of the presidency.

I only think candidates should be discluded based on law.

Hard agree. This is my whole argument. Insurrection needs to be strongly defined to avoid future manipulation. We cannot (yet) conclude that Trump was involved in insurrection.

I'm logically consistent,

Me too.

Trumpers are extremely delusional and very stupid. So, they will get very violent ...

Agree with this and all you wrote following.