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[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 86 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

This entire tipping thing is terrible - including for dashers themselves.

It means dashers income heavily relies on strangers being kind enough to leave some extra.

It means customers are gonna feel bad for not paying more than their order amount (and they probably will pay the tip)

It means company can employ slave labor for extremely low pay and still have people willing to do this.

Tipping benefits only one party - the companies. We need to stop it.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

correct on all parts, it pits dasher against customers. also these companies are still not profitable. that should tell you something.

the truth is that the business model just doesn't work. if you want to pay drivers actual living wages, delivery fees would have to be more than 20 dollars for each order.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop patronizing restaurants where they don't pay their staff a livable wage. Stop using delivery apps that don't pay their drivers a livable wage.

This predatory employers are the problem. Stop rewarding them with your business.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop patronizing restaurants where they don’t pay their staff a livable wage.

In most parts of the US, that's all of them. This position is de facto "never eat out or order takeout". I'm not sure that's entirely realistic.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

So cook, by taking part in the exploitative system, not only are you contributing to it, but by not tipping on top of that the only person you're hurting is the worker. That worker has never even met the CEO, the CEO doesn't give two shits that while he got his money the guy on the bottom got stiffed. Yes it's inconvenient, but if you have grandiose ideas about how the entire system should change, you should take part in said change not by exploiting that worker yourself but by boycotting the whole business; or by ordering, tipping, and trying to poach them for employment at your business; or by opening your own spot and paying fairly to set an example and provide others like you a place to buy guilt free; something other than "fuck you for bringing me food I hope you starve or have to live in a tent, tell your boss to pay you better I'm sure he won't just find a 'quieter' employee like he did to all the others."