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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.

For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups

Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.

Another was pregnant with her fifth child when she arrived in the transit camp, where she would live for seven years. The woman in her thirties told Reuben that officials had gathered together all the new mothers in the camp and told them they would be given Depo-Provera as it would be too difficult for them to give birth Israel.

"No, we didn't want to take it, we refused. We said we didn't want it," the unnamed woman recalls in the film. She agreed to the injections only because she was told her immigration to Israel would be blocked and she would receive no further healthcare in the camps if she refused.

"This happened to many, many other women," Reuben said.

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Thousands of Ethiopian Jews were evacuated into Israel through covert operations by Israel.

Assessing Claims That Ethiopian Immigrants to Israel Received Birth Control Shots Without Consent

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago

I think you are missing the point. Jewish people who live outside of Israel can't be beholden to policies set by Israel. Its also important to note that Jewish is both a religion and a race.

Don't let the conflicts in Israel control your treatment of other humans. If we let hate overcome us we could end up with Holocaust type situations (it doesn't even need to be Jewish hate)

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Also people who think all all Jews are Israelis. My wife is Canadian Jewish, and she's not very religious or political. I'm Latino and I know more about Israel than she does, but people sometimes try to put Israel's baggage on her or her family because of their ancestry. She considers herself Canadian, and her Jewish heritage is a cultural one, not a location.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Disagree as in Free Palestine or as in eliminate all moslems?

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Free Palestine

You're missing one state solution. That's what's essentially going to happen as things go. They're depopulating gaza with the plan to eventually grant citizenship to the reduced population of Palestinians so they can maintain a jewish majority. West bank alone wouldn't cause a loss in majority, but Gaza would. They won't grant right of return. Though that is genocide.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But is that what the Arab Jews want?

[–] LaChaleurDeLaNuit@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Arab Jews were expelled from their homeland (every single Arab/Muslim country) so they don't exactly have a fond memory of living among Muslims.

But they live just fine with Israeli Arabs and just as any other human being they want to live in peace.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only after the creation of Israel and he Nabqa. Berore that Jews and Muslims lived mostly in peace.

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago

Forgive me, but I'm going to copy-paste another post of mine.

Allahdad 1839 pogrom

Mawza Exile 1679-1680

Damascus Affair 1840

Granada Massacre 1066

1834 looting of Safed

And more
"In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure."
"in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing."