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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For her we gave up the Merchant of Death.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure she would disagree, as would you if you were in a Russian prison.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't go near Russia. But she is a tad bit biased.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know what she is biased about. Seems to me that she was just trying to make a buck and the kickback of Russia invading Ukraine ran over her. Wrong place. Wrong time.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea, no...If you're going to cross into another country, make sure you respect the laws of said country. Next time she'll hopefully leave her drugs at home.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The laws in Russia are very much determined on what Russia's anxiety is at the time. Don't play the lawful card.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don’t play the lawful card.

Really? That's your defense for breaking the law..."Don't worry about the law"?

Don't go to Asia if that's your attitude. They make Russia look like a vacation resort.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

When you say “leave her drugs at home” and “she thought she was above the law”, you make it sound like she audaciously took a bag of weed with her. What she actually took was

cartridges containing less than a gram of medically prescribed hash oil

that she didn’t consider would be a problem. There is a difference, even if you’re unable to recognize that.

[–] Hillock@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It should be common knowledge that you can't just bring prescribed medication into a foreign country. There is even plenty of OTC medication you can't bring into some countries.

Heck, in many places you can't even bring fruits, meat, or dairy. Not doing your due diligence before traveling is on the person traveling.

I don't think she deserves to be in prison for that and I would assume if relations with Russia at the time were better she would have just been denied entry/fined.

But breaking the law is still entirely on her and returning such a high profile prisoner in exchange for her mistake stings.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

should be

It’s not even entirely clear in her own country from state to state, it being medically prescribed confused the situation even more, get over yourself.

Further, she’s out, it’s over, all of you harping on it means nothing except you get to feel superior over a black athlete.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel superior that I never had to release a person in the top 10 wanted list because I really needed my drugs.

That's a reasonable position however you want to spin it.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your rhetoric is typical of a racist.

Or possibly just an asshole.

really needed my drugs

Probably both. An asshole who doesn’t understand or respect medicinal uses for cannabis, and a racist who judges POC more harshly than others for it.

No, that’s not a reasonable position.

Also, she didn’t choose the terms of her release, so again, your position seemly blaming her for who was traded isn’t reasonable. Also, if she wasn’t traded for him, Whelan probably would have been. And most likely you wouldn’t be complaining about that nearly as much, and you’d be perfectly happy letting her be in prison instead, which is why all your bullshit is most likely racist as hell.

And I’m blocking you now, worthless person.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

I'm racist is all you've got for that? Really? Brilliant rebuttle.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She also disregarded a state department directive that Russia is a dangerous country to go to for Americans.

So, not only was she above the law, she felt she was above the US government's intelligence department as well.

She's put national security at risk and we all fucking paid for Biden making an appeal to black voters.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The majority of what you said also applies to Whelan.

He was there for work (just like her) despite all the warnings, and his presence was even more of a risk as a reporter than as someone there to play for a basketball team.

It’s done. Get the fuck over it.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

That's correct...I think they should both rot in prison...but only one was let go. Why is that?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Defense? I didn't realize I needed a defense. But if I do, mine would that Russias aw's laws are whatever they want to make them at any given time. Even the Russians know this.

[–] 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Not bringing illegal drugs to another country seems like a very low bar to clear tbh

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems to me like she thought she was above the law because she was semi-popular.

This poor guy doesn't get the same special treatment because he isn't sort of somewhat a little bit famous.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This guy's real problems are....

A. Hes up on espionage charges

B. The US is still supplying weapons to Ukraine

C. The US has no high value prisoners that Russia wants

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Then they'd be wrong. It objectively isn't worth it.