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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 91 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (79 children)

If anyone is still wondering why Hamas and other resistance factions are fighting, this is what happens when the IDF wins.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck Hamas. They are not "resisting", they killed innocent civilians, women and children, and don't give a flying fuck about the Palestinian civilians either (cf Moussa Abu Marzouk's declaration that they are not responsible for defending the civilians in Gaza). They are a creation of the Israeli apartheid regime's own making when they were hoping to destroy the credibility of the PA, to perpetuate their colonialist narrative. Hamas and the Israeli apartheid are two sides of the same brutal, inhuman coin. Fuck Hamas as much as the Likud and the ultranationalist Israeli right to the seventh pit of hell.

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

on the radio I heard two scholars discussing recent polls that reveal a surprisingly strong level of support for Hamas among gazans even now, despite the level of backlash that has resulted. when asked why, they said that Palestinians have long given up any hope that negotiations could achieve their goal of freedom and independence. they said that since negotiating has clearly failed for decades, Palestinians feel that the only remaining option Israel has left them is aggression and violence. and Hamas is the leadership that is willing to resort to violence.

while I certainly feel awful about any innocent Israelis getting caught up in the original attack, I can't help but feel like Israel has done this to themselves. they have caged an entire group like wild animals for decades and somehow have the audacity to blame them for lashing out.

but let's be honest here. we have all heard these points and most of us have already made up our minds about it.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

on the radio I heard two scholars discussing recent polls that reveal a surprisingly strong level of support for Hamas among gazans even now, despite the level of backlash that has resulted

That's what trauma does to you. Initially, support for Hamas had dwindled before October 7th, but after you literally drop bombs and bombs on people until they have to carry whatever is left of their children in blankets and plastic bags, well...

[–] Specal@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It's hard to not let your emotions take over, but Hamas only exists because of the hatred of Israel.

Hamas exists because Israel doesn't want Palestines to exist.

Terrorist organisation typically don't continue to exist for extended periods of time without external assistance.

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