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[–] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well it's a good thing you did the work and spoke with every Jewish person in north America to be able to paint with such a broad brush. I guess all the people I've spoken with we're lying about their ethnicity.

In seriousness though, simply adding "many" or "a plurality of" is enough to add nuance to the discussion. Starting with the blanket "the Jews" isn't a good look.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Case in point on not being able to have a level headed discussion. Obviously I'm generalizing. Obviously there are those that vehemently disagree with what the state is doing. Unfortunately those aren't the ones making the decisions.

You are entitled to feel the way you do. Doesn't change what I've seen in my years.

Oh my gosh! People online have different opinions and have lived different lives with different world experiences?!

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously I'm generalizing.

You're generalizing about an ethnic group that has historically been and currently often is the target of discrimination and violent harassment. The citizens of Israel are largely against their government and their actions, as are the Palestinian people against Hamas and their actions.

You generalizing to say the Jews are to blame is perpetuating a serious problem.

I highly recommend you watch this segment from John Oliver on the topic to understand what I mean. https://youtu.be/pJ9PKQbkJv8?si=rtyoNQuMmVPV9B9F

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that there is a nation (Israel) that is generalizing everyone they kill with the same broad brush as well? The IDF themselves have stated that if innocent people die that's acceptable to them.

So yes, instead of having a discussion about what's actually happening let's nitpick on someone generalizing "the Jews". Let's completely invalidate a discussion for that reason and that reason alone.

Best of luck in life.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Don't blame the poster you're responding to for your poor word choice. The criticism you're receiving is fair. Own it, and do better.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago

I own what I say but other people need to own when their feels are hurt because someone says things they don't like, specifically online.

[–] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 0 points 11 months ago

You're entitled to feel the way you do too, but it doesn't change what I've seen in my years, either.

I think I'm being perfectly level headed, I'm just being a little snarky. At least equally snarky to your comment.

I just wanted to point out that nuance is possible with just a few additional words, but only if we choose to use nuance.