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[–] Staiden@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As someone who enjoys the near death experience of being a flattened disk of light energy folding in space time, this makes me sad.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don’t worry. Consciousness is immortal so you’ll be able to live as much time as you want as a disc of light or whatever.

[–] Staiden@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So I wouldn't actually want to be stuck in it forever. It's hard to explain but my k-holes are quite dark and dreadful, it's what I explained in my previous comment except looping. I don't have a physical body anymore and I'm just a thought process floating through space in a stream of color. There's this creeking noise like a door opening that starts off real low pitch and slowly speeds up to the point it's high pich and extremely fast. Then it's like hitting a wall and you fly in to a million pieces an slowly gather yourself in that state and then it repeats.

It feels like that is what you have been since the beginning of time. It feels like a near death experience and when i come out some kind of reverse psychology goes on in my brain. I just think about how much it would suck if that was real. My depression goes away for quite awhile afterwards.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whenever I do nitrous, I see this same truth. The truth is that the universe has four phases. Being high on nitrous and seeing the structure is one of the four states.

There’s some kind of four-phase clockwork thing chugging along. Normal existence I think is one of the states?

I can’t remember. All I can remember is being astounded, every time, that I’m back in the “aware of what’s going on phase”, and I struggle mightily to remember the lesson, knowing I won’t be able to because the next phase is defined by my ignorance of it.

It’s maddening.

I’d love to do some serious ketamine sometime. I did a little line at a party once in 2006 and that was for my ketamine experience. It was a tiny bump and didn’t really affect me much. Nothing even remotely psychedelic, that I recall.

At that same party I did a huge hit of fucking homemade habanero extract (on purpose) and that was way more mind-blowing.

[–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

K and nitrous... that's mothers love.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it doesn’t matter if you want to or not. You are literally never going to die.

You can die in other people’s worlds, but not in your own. Other people will die in your universe, but your own life will, beyond all odds, only continue forever.

You’ll die in others’ universes of course. Other people will lose you. But you’ll never lose yourself.

No choice, pal.

But I don’t think you’ll be human the whole time. Human lifespan is a century or so. So the story of your life will have to change to account for your survival. Eventually, no human story will suffice any longer. In these other timelines where you survive, you may be uploaded into a machine, or possibly disconnect from your body via astral projection, or wake up in a simulated universe instead, with different laws around death.

But at some point during the eternity, you’ll probably be the disc of light. I’m guessing trillions of years out, after the heat death of the universe has rendered it incapable of supporting any kind of life as we know it.

This is something I recently learned, actually. That we’re immortal.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please do go submit this information to an academic journal and accept your Nobel.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

No way to prove it yet

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My awareness going on forever sounds hellish. I don't want to only live 70-100 years, but I also wouldn't want to live 1000 years, let alone billions.

So I sure hope you're wrong on that front (and I think you are). The universe is a cruel enough place as it is.

[–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My man.

I've been there too. I saw the singularity and touched god... and I'm a goddamn atheist. Coming back from that experience changed me. The memories were fleeting. I couldn't remember the specifics after I returned to baseline. All the knowledge that I was given dissipated... but the overwhelming sense of calm persisted.

If I'm gonna die, it'd be a good way to go out.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

My biggest k-hole was my most terrifying and incredible experience I’ve ever had. I haven’t done it since. I will again someday.

The curtain of consciousness was peeled back and I saw what was beyond life and time and brain. It was neat, it horrified me.