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[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They believe god may grant the fetus a reprieve at any moment. They believe in magic, ffs. What do you expect?

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Couldn’t god just make the abortion not work? Maybe give the doctor a heart attack, or make Jesus appear on the sonogram like he does on toast?

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean he could make a lot of things not work, but prefers to allow our fuck ups with random miracles mixed in. Apparently free will means letting us do bad shit.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And that’s where the whole tri-omni approach starts to eat its own tail.

I have a whole shtick about free will not being compatible with either a materialistic nor a tri-omni worldview. I simply do not believe it exists, nor is it possible.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The omnis just don't work sanely, not that believers will listen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Epicurus tackled it centuries before Christianity existed:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I doubt in many cases they even believe in the science that says this is going to be the outcome, because science isn't real.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

They think science is a religion. Manifestation of your will is what makes reality. So if they pray hard enough, it will have an effect. They think people who consider themselves scientists are just making it up and making it real because they believe it so much.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I don't see why they would doubt that. In my experience they tend to trust medical science but god is a super doc that might miracle someone in a bad spot.