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[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

4th edition had a lot of that, but it doesn't really fit for the dungeon crawler gameplay, which they were trying to make more possible again with 5th edition. Part of that story archetype is seeing resources whittled down as you get deeper and deeper into the dungeon, always wondering if you should go back up or if you should push deeper to get that big score. That's where the tension comes from for that style of play. Same thing for wilderness travel expedition-type games.

Those types of games aren't for everyone, but DnD 5th edition has always been about trying to be everything for everyone. "Everyone's 2nd favorite edition." indeed lol.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You touch on an important point. The D&D long rest resource resource management system can make sense when you're doing a dungeon crawl and you're actually into the whole "do we have enough supplies to go deeper or do we turn back thing?" But my understanding is that's not how most people actually play. There was a poll going around a couple months ago that revealed most D&D groups do one fight per long rest.

If you're just doing one fight per long rest, you're doing per-encounter powers badly. That screws over the on-paper short-rest classes, and forces the story's pacing to be slow to account for the "ok you sleep for another day" thing.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Haha ya, I actually do it properly and I've had players think my style nerfed spellcasters too much by spacing out long rests between encounters. No, I'm just playing it as designed and giving chances for everyone to shine, the fights where spellcasters can nova and the fights where martial classes or warlocks can pull their weight, too.