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[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I don't see how someone burning a copy of a book that they paid for themselves is discrimination. It is criticism and protest, but not discriminatory. It isn't denying anyone else's access to the words in the book. It's just making a political statement.

Ideas should always be allowed to be criticized. Inanimate objects shouldn't be given human rights.

[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So the general issue why burning such a copy should be considered incorrect is the fact that Quran, apart from being just another book, is a symbol of Islamic religion. Hence why it appears offensive to Muslims. Same logic applies to other symbols. Do you think it’s absolutely okay to come to a square and burn LGBTI or BLM flags. If you were a gay and saw someone else burning a rainbow flag, would you feel safe at such place?

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I will always support someone's right to burn an inanimate object that they own themselves. I would think that person is an asshole, but would not feel threatened by it in anyway. I am what those BLM flag burners would consider a POC.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're bing purposefully obtuse. This does not stop criticism of Islam or the Quaran, or making political statements about Islam.

It is banning an act that has been very specifically used with the intent of inciting hatred.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, some neckbeard American called me a coward. However will I cope 🤣

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personal attack last refuge of someone without an argument

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I totally agree. You would have to have no actual argument to resort to calling someone a coward for not being a freeze peach fetishist.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I accurately described cowardly actions as cowardly.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And I accurately described neckbeardly actions as coming from a neckbeard. Now skiddadle back to /r/atheism where you belong.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All the personal attacks won't shore up your argument for skydaddy appeasement.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

:o you called a god I don't believe in from a religion I don't respect "skyadaddy" you're the ultimate combination of edginess, wit and comedy XD

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Bullshit. No way you aren't a devout theist. Probably even got baptized and everything.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The only "religion" I'm part of is the Satanic Temple. But yeah keep saying I'm a theist and hopefully you'll convince yourself it's true and you can add another tally to your "Internet arguments won" board and your mom will bring you extra tendies tonight.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You don't understand because you're not Islamic.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I am an aethist who was raised in an Islamic family, so I think I understand better than most.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As you admit, youre not Islamic

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As you lied you are not an atheist

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Why do you even bother discussing things with people if you're just going to make up what you think they believe?

[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would not necessarily say it’s because people don’t understand Muslims. I myself have nothing in common with Muslims, as well.

More likely the case is that there are 2 approaches to free speech. First one advocates for absolute free speech whilst the second is more aligned with "my liberty ends where yours begins" phrase.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I agree with you that we can contrast absolute free speech with a view that considers the effects we have on others. I'm all for the latter approach while I find the former infantile. I do still believe that not being islamic is an issue here. I don't tell Christians how to feel about their faith because I am not one. I expect others to extend the same consideration to Muslims.