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[–] red@sopuli.xyz 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am personally unaware of any serious reason to believe that Firefox’s numbers will improve soon.

Yeah about that. Manifest V3 will infuse Firefox userbase nicely come next summer.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 57 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Get out of the lemmy Foss bubble and ask again. I don't know anybody that actually gives a fuck about manifest v3 tbh.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They will care about their adblocker no longer working

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do many real life users even know about ad blockers?

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago

YouTube has been running a successful awareness campaign for those that didn't know about Adblockers.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 months ago

The reason there's such a pushback against them is because they've become popular. It used to be a secret amongst nerds; now it's common even on the iPhone.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I once saw stats from a 2015 study that said 40% of people on the internet used ad blockers. Who knows how that's changed since then, but as somebody else said, the majority of people who don't probably don't even know that you can block ads, otherwise they'd probably be using it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's much much higher than I would have expected.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

Agreed, I expected it to be 10% or less. I was very surprised.

[–] Blackmist 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Given the amount of people all too happy to use Chrome on Android where you can't block ads easily, I doubt it.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's usually not because they don't care but because they don't know that ads can be blocked on the phone as well

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

They don't make the effort to find out.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I use ublock origin on firefox on android, wasnt that hard.

[–] Bulletdust@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they haven't been affected by Manifest v3 yet. As soon as they realise just what Manifest v3's all about...They'll give a fuck.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Savvy people may bother. Everyone else, who are much more numerically significant, still won't.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those two crowds intermingle, you realize that, right? They're your family and friends, and they talk to each other.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My family prefers convenience and I cannot for the life of me make them realize the value of their privacy. They get lost if a button is placed at the top of the phone instead of the bottom. They complain when they click on an ad and the resulting page is a "cannot find the server" (because of it being blocked). To them, ad blocking is an inconvenience.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I guess it will just come down to which is more inconvenient, a web page that doesn't work every once in a while, or constantly being bombarded by ads which makes a web page hard to read.

[–] blackn1ght 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've never even heard of it...

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

The short of it is that Google wants to prevent ad blockers from working in Chromium based browsers.

I don't remember if this is also planned for v3 or unrelated, but there was also talks of essentially DRM-ing the internet to block non-Chromium browsers.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it'll be more common knowledge when it hits next summer and current era of adblocking seizes to exist on Chrome.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

People don't care about anything until that thing hits them.