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"Systematic reviews of controlled clinical studies of treatments used by chiropractors have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective, with the possible exception of treatment for back pain.[8] A 2011 critical evaluation of 45 systematic reviews concluded that the data included in the study "fail[ed] to demonstrate convincingly that spinal manipulation is an effective intervention for any condition."[10] Spinal manipulation may be cost-effective for sub-acute or chronic low back pain, but the results for acute low back pain were insufficient.[11] No compelling evidence exists to indicate that maintenance chiropractic care adequately prevents symptoms or diseases.[12]"

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[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 156 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You can save a lot of money by just going to a masseuse instead of a chiropractor. People attribute the positive feeling they get from attention to well being improvements, and pseudoscience practitioners certainly achieve that at a premium price. If it's attention you want, get a massage, otherwise go to a PT and get some real help.

[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 65 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Also I think a massage therapist will tend to be more educated on the muscles and how they work together than a masseuse

[–] Gregorech@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A massage therapist tends not to provide the "extras" that you can get from a strip mall masseuse.

[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just make sure they're not a cop first.

[–] deadsenator@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would not be a happy ending to the story.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depends on for whom. A good bust makes nearly everybody happy.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Busting makes me feel good

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t care, I’ll come on a cop.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In some places and depending on the specific details, the punishment for that offense wouldn't include jail time. Instead of a crime, it's just a penile code violation.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SacrificedBeans@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Or after the extras.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

That's what they're for

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My wife, bless her innocent heart, still doesn't get this. She's been to every strip mall, Groupon massage studio in the area and is constantly like "wow, I can't figure out why these $75/hr massages are so hit or miss."

I have tried explaining to her that it's because she doesn't have a penis, but she still doesn't get it.

[–] frokie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How prevalent are these? I’ve always wanted to try but can never tell which is a safe place to approach

[–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

I can't believe I know this, but RubMaps used to (might still be?) a thing. If you looked at the outside of them on Google Maps you could very quickly start to pick up on the patterns among the listed locations.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

do you want happy ending?

yes, heck you know what, lets have a happy middle too.. and a happy beginning.. ok make the whole thing happy please!

[–] Duranie@midwest.social 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As a massage therapist that used to work in education (director of education at a massage school and taught anatomy/pathology) results will vary wildly across the States. The majority of states only started licensing in the last 10-15 years, and of course requirements for licensing and supervision varies. Some schools teach enough anatomy to get their students to pass the tests, then focus their time teaching spa type massage (aromatherapy, wraps, hot stones, etc.) or energy work. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it serves a different purpose.

There are definitely schools that exist that focus more on therapeutic/rehabilitative work, but even then the challenge is finding a therapist with an up to date approach who doesn't buy the old school "no pain no gain" who kicks the shit out of you. Massage shouldn't hurt. But if your find the right therapist for you, they're worth their weight in gold.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Massages should hurt if your body is full of deep tissue knots like mine is. My rhomboids and forearms are basically just knots most of the time.

But that's largely on me for not stretching.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yup. At my first massage appointment, before I even got on the table, she told me where I hurt and why I was hurting that way. And she was 100% correct.

[–] DrMango@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Just FYI, the generally preferred term these days is "massage therapist." Last I heard "masseuse" and "masseur" (the masculine version) have an implicit sexual connotation that "massage therapist" does not. Unless that's what you were recommending instead of chiropractic, in which case carry on!

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Also it has a more professional connotation. RMTs go to school and work hard to be qualified and capable of their jobs.

[–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

As my sister who is a MT always said: "A massage therapist gives you a massage, a masseuse gives you a happy ending."

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This. I'm seriously considering finding the money for an at home sauna. Get my muscles nice and warm and relaxed and then stretch the shit out of them.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

then stretch the shit out of them.

Just be careful. There is such a thing as over stretching. I fucked up my knees stretching after a hot yoga session and could barely walk for a couple of years.

Everything in moderation.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

One of the worst overstretches I did was in a pool. With my body weight canceled out I could get into deeper stretches, like by putting my leg up on the edge of the pool. Afterwards I realized I'd overdone it. lol

[–] Zevlen@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That must have sucked/hurt 🤕 ... But it sounded like a real funny story for some reason...

Mi bad...

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You don't have to tell me anything, seriously. I have fucked up my back no less than 3 times. The last time I fucked my back up was about a year ago and I busted my shoulder at the same time. My back is still tight and off in a few places and while my shoulder isn't at 100% I have like 90% of rom back and more to come as I keep working on it. I have and continue to fix myself all without the help of a pt.

I had hoped that a line like that wouldn't be taken at face but I guess the Amelia Bedelias are making there way from reddit.