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[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Can we stop calling this shit AI? It has no intelligence

[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is what AI actually is. Not the super-intelligent "AI" that you see in movies, those are fiction.

The NPC you see in video games with a few branches of if-else statements? Yeah that's AI too.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. It's a language learning and text output machine. It doesn't know anything, its only ability is to output realistic sounding sentences based on input, and will happily and confidently spout misinformation as if it is fact because it can't know what is or isn't correct.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

it’s a learning machine

Should probably use a more careful choice of words if you want to get hung up on semantic arguments

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Sounds pretty much identical to human beings to me

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Mass effects lore differences between virtual intelligence and artificial intelligence, the first one is programmed to do shit and say things nicely, the second one understands enough to be a menace to civilization... always wondered if this distinction was actually accepted outside the game.

*Terms could be mixed up cause I played in German (VI and KI)

[–] might_steal_your_cat@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

There are many definitions of AI (eg. there is some mathematical model used), but machine learning (which is used in the large language models) is considered a part of the scientific field called AI. If someone says that something is AI, it usually means that some technique from the field AI has been applied there. Even though the term AI doesn't have much to do with the term intelligence as most of the people perceive it, I think the usage here is correct. (And yes, the whole scientific field should have been called differently.)

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sadly the definition of artificial still fits the bill. Even if it's still a bit misleading and most poeple will associate Artificial Intelligence with something akin to HAL 9000

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why we preface it with Artificial.

[–] BluesF 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But it isn't artificial intelligence. It isn't even an attempt to make artificial "intelligence". It is artificial talking. Or artificial writing.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

In that case I'm not really sure what you're expecting from AI, without getting into the philosophical debate of what intelligence is. Most modern AI systems are in essence taking large datasets and regurgitating the most relevant data back in a relevant form.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I will continue calling it "shit AI".

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I like it too haha

[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol, the AI effect in practice - the minute a computer can do it, it's no longer intelligence.

A year ago if you had told me you had a computer program that could write greentexts compellingly, I would have told you that required "true" AI. But now, eh.

In any case, LLMs are clearly short of the "SuPeR BeInG" that the term "AI" seems to make some people think of and that you get all these Boomer stories about, and what we've got now definitely isn't that.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The AI effect can't be a real thing since true AI hasn't been done yet. We're getting closer, but we're definitely not in the positronic brain stage yet.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

"true AI"

AI is just "artificial intelligence", there are no strict criterias defining what is "true" AI and not,

Do the LLM models show an ability to reason and problem solve? Yes

Are they perfect? No

So what?

Ironically your comment sounds like yet another example of the AI effect