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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's been a few crashes in the UK over the years where drivers have driven into heavy fog at full speed, and the number of cars wrecked has been in the double digits.

Stupidity on an industrial scale.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It could be you next.

This is like parents leaving a child in the back seat of a car. Academically you know to never do it, but while it's happening, you don't detect it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but there's nothing academic about realizing you've lost all visibility.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

It's related to highway hypnosis, and the moment you transition from "normal, safe road conditions" where you are following the person ahead to "can't see shit fog" and everyone is panic breaking.

By the time you've "realiz(ed) you've lost all visibility" you're fucked.

These situations happen most frequently with localized fog or very rapid weather shifts where drivers don't expect change.

This is not a justification of unsafe driving, but an explanation of how average drivers around the world keep doing this.

Google highway hypnosis for more background.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wtf. You should not be driving. Stop driving. Someone immediately take this person’s license from them. They are a willful hazard.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well so long as we’re throwing the argumentum ad populum fallacies around It was also well documented that people owned people as slaves too but you don’t see slave owners being given the award for common sense nor trusted with anything more than a diced apple. It’s just more assurance your judgment is flawed beyond reason. Thanks for the confirmation my first post is right to take your license. Get you off the road ASAP.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, are your actually suggesting you are different?

If you read the article, you'd see examples of people of all educations and backgrounds and origins are capable of forgetting a child in the back seat (routine disruption) or driving into fog (highway hypnosis).

It's not a populum fallacy, I'm literally sharing studied science on human behavior.

Would you say the doorway effect or frequency illusion or the dunning Kruger effect don't happen to you either? That you are special? Oh wait I might be onto something with the last one, superdriver...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doorway_effect#:~:text=The%20'doorway%20effect'%20or%20',remained%20in%20the%20same%20place

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, are your actually suggesting you are different?

Nope. But nice little tangent you went off on anyways instead of allowing an answer from the person you’re supposedly communicating with.

And You’re a bit late to the party. Dunning Kruger effect has since been debunked for a while now. It’s up there in pseudo science with meyers Briggs these days. Although if it were real you’re doing a pretty damned good example of it.

and despite all that you still failed argue a common idea is a good idea at best you just moved goal posts to do ‘common bad ideas are common’

Bad ideas are still bad and shouldn’t be celebrated nor needing defence. I can guarantee you people who left children in the back of a car wouldn’t be so absolutely idiotic to not call themselves incompetent when they realized they did it. Hence why your precious dunning Kruger effect is baseless.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

"nope."

Then I'm all good don't care about the rest.

You aren't different, you are just as susceptible to highway hypnosis or routine disruption as anyone else.

Cya