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Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis. 

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country's population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People's Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

"Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children," Putin said.

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let’s keep going until there’s a 1:39 male to female ratio. That’d be ideal. Not strange at all.

It's not about the ratio, it's about a total amount of bodies, regardless of gender, available to run/work the country, in the future generations.

They already took a big hit in World War II, and they're taking another hit now, and most nations taking two pop hits in a row don't recover well.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, with Russia, it seems like it's just been constant: WW1, revolution, WW2, Stalin's reign, now this.

If anything, rather than WW2 and this being "in a row", that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.

For as much as we (Americans) regard Russia (as a state) with an adversarial eye, as far as Russians (the actual common people) are concerned, I kinda feel for them. Seems like their entire history is dominated by difficulty, hardship, and death.

Then again maybe that impression is precisely the impression that the American education system has very carefully cultivated...

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If anything, rather than WW2 and this being “in a row”, that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.

I'm speaking towards actual graphs I've seen before from education videos (RealLifeLore, etc.) on the subject that show specific peaks in population drops following war, and how they affect Russia directly.

I wasn't trying to elaborate on the whole history of Russia, just that they've had large population drops because of death via war.

[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's like the copypasta about Russian history,

.... and then it got worse.