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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

...how? The only acceptable one (Even though I personally don't like it) is cash.

Fax sucks ass and should have been put in the grave LONG ago, Flash drives are superior to Floppy in every way and fuck paper filing, digitized paperwork is far superior.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If people actually upgraded from FAX, I would have completely agreed. What we have today is an abomination which doesn't work. Not even a week ago I had an issue with some paperwork where tax office required me to fill some form in PDF, then print it, then sign it, scan it and send it to them. I have a phone with a pen, so I did all of that and skipped few steps. Signed the document on screen. No no no no no. They didn't want that. They want my signature on paper which I never have to send them but my signature signed through screen is not good enough.

FAX is basically all of this with fewer steps and I can easily see why they wouldn't want to move away from it. It it works, don't fix it mentality. Luckily this trend is slowly going away, but damn. Not to mention same IRS office required me to generate a certificate which I can use to digitally sign documents. But I couldn't do this either, since they accept that only on some documents. A mystery.

As far as floppy disks are concerned, this is mainly for industrial machines. They are still a huge user. Those machines are not replaced every 2 years as they are more robust and made to last. So having a machine older than 30 years still working in industry is nothing new and considering upgrade costs literally millions, it's simply not worth paying that much money to upgrade to USB.

[–] st3ph3n@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of those floppy drives in industrial and lab applications (as well as the retro computing enthusiast space) are being replaced by things like GoTek devices, which are essentially floppy emulators with flash memory.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In some places, yes. But many are still not doing the upgrade as it would require technical person to do so, provide tech support, etc. All of that costs money. Whole industry is becoming very specialized place. Siemens still sells laptops with DB9 and other serial connectors just so you can access and program PLCs. And new USB based adapters to serial simply don't work. Sometimes they do, but most of the time they have issues with these specialized devices.

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Floppy drives are the brontosaurus among these, excusive paper filing sucks too, but cash society and fax telecom is not that bad.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I mean these things can’t be that bad, Japan compete well on the world stage so whatever they’re doing is working fine. Can it be improved, probably. Does it need to be? Not yet

[–] SomeKindaName@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • We use fax in the USA more than you'd think. I'd call that a wash.

  • Paper in your filing cabinet will never be messed with by a ransomware attack. Ransomware attacks seem to happen to businesses and hospitals just about daily here. I'm actually watching a news story on a hospital ransomware attack as I write this.

Floppy drives? Yeesh that one is a bit weird.