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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure. And those documents include saying black people are 3/5ths of a person. You can ignore that if you like, I guess.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not ignoring that, I'm trying to answer.
Those documents are major improvements, but there are still not completely extracted from their historical context. For example, the French "Men Rights" willingly ignored the mention of women, despite feminists campaigning for it. Even if some of the influences were impressively progressive philosophers, they were all still pretty damn sexist, which was the norm at this time.
There's no absolute truth for values, people who think there is, are religious people. Best we can do is finding a consensus, the modern Human Rights is the best we have, I think.