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JERUSALEM, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Israel published video on Sunday of what it described as a tunnel dug by Palestinian militants under the Gaza Strip's biggest hospital, a focus of its search-and-destroy missions against Hamas in a war now in its seventh week.

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[–] DolphinMath@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Since no one is bothering to answer, I’ll attempt to explain that perspective.

Many people see “Zionist” as coded language. Similar to how racists often call Black People “Thugs” in America.

Right or wrong, if you start throwing around the term “Zionist” a significant number of people will tune out to what you are saying.

To many, it also implies you anti-Israel and do not believe in a 2 state solution.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So what is the term for the large Israeli faction that seeks to occupy Palestine, has no problem stealing land or bombing children? Basically the people in charge now?

[–] palal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

You're not allowed to talk about that.

The Zionist community has tried really hard to conflate Zionism with Jewish identity, to the point where anything critical of Israel and Netanyahu's regime is seen as antisemitic.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The word for this was literally never zionists. Zionism is simply the belief that the state of Israel, as a political entity, should exist.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you, I stand corrected on that point.

So what is the term for the current people in charge who have no problem bombing civilians, killing children and stacking land through occupation?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] DolphinMath@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be clear, I have no interest in arguing this point. I only want to add context.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not trying to argue, I've just anyways assumed the Zionists were the label they themselves used to describe themselves. Is it the Israeli far right? It's obviously not all Israel, I know many Israeli's are just as horrified by the treatment by Palestinians as other people.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think the only people who see it as coded language are those who want to avoid the fact that Zionism is religious nationalism.

Most people I come across these days that aren't zionist shills can clearly tell the difference between anti-zionist and anti-semite.

It's pretty obvious when you're dealing with a zionist shill because it's impossible for them to be even the slightest bit critical of Israel.

Maybe there are some higher-level shills that are trained to be critical of Israel to be more convincing, though.