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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did i once claim that Israel was not applying spin or using the dead to advance their own agenda?

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I'm sorry - the notion that different sides of the conflict will not use the dead or reports of abuses from the other side as spin fodder for their own political objectives is incredibly naive or idealistic.

Unless your argument is that it is justified for Islamic terrorists to attack a hospital and blame Israel, then there.

Regardless of the murderers, civilians deserve an investigation into their murders rather than a hand waving and blaming of the other team.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, that has nothing to do with a 'sides' argument, and I'm still not really seeing how you think it is one. In fact, when I wrote that I wasn't entirely sure which side if any you were trying to represent with your comments, so the fact you thought it was a sided comment is hilarious.

My point is that it's naive to think that each side isn't going to propagandize their dead.

Regardless of the murderers, civilians deserve an investigation into their murders rather than a hand waving and blaming of the other team.

Mmmhmm. And how often do comprehensive independent investigations into war crimes occur during hostilities versus after?

Evidence is gathered during but the investigation and review of the evidence in its totality occurs after.

Your hand wringing would hold more weight if we hadn't already had multiple investigations into Israel-Palestine conflicts and war crimes by this point.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Got it. Because people didn't care about past civilian casualties, these civilians are more useful as tools to raise awareness.

Also: We literally had a comprehensive investigation by multiple countries and independent third parties for the atrocity we are discussing so... It is just that media outlets (some state funded...) jumped the gun to immediately use those civilian casualties to their advantage. Rather than wait a few hours for preliminary investigations.