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Hamas tried to sneak its fighters out of the Gaza Strip in ambulances that evacuated dozens of wounded Palestinians to Egypt earlier this week, a senior Biden administration official said Friday.

Hamas had compiled a list of the seriously wounded that it wanted to evacuate from Gaza for treatment in Egypt, along with thousands of foreign nationals looking to flee the enclave.

The list was then vetted by Egypt and the United States, which found that a third of the names on it were of Hamas fighters, the administration official said, adding that the list was rejected and none of the 76 wounded Palestinians who were ultimately evacuated in ambulances out of Gaza were members of the terror group.

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[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every injured person deserves treatment, no exceptions, anything else would be inhumane.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you force Germany to admit a Nazi if they were sick?

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean by admit? You mean to treat? Yes of course. As I said, imo every sick or injured person deserves medical treatment, no matter their background. Also, when they are healthy again, I would want to see that Nazi getting put in front of a court, questioned, convicted and punished as the law dictates.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes of course I would, how else could they convict him for his crimes?

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Egypt doesn't want to admit people from a group that successfully terrorized their whole nation for an extended period of time. They have no interest in convicting them.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand that but for injured people they should make an exception, it would be the humanist thing to do.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that's something the Brotherhood should have considered when they decided to commit the atrocities.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I have enough of being attacked from both sides constantly, just for being neutral and humanist in this conflict. I get attacked by the pro Israel crowd and simultaneously, in other discussions, I get attacked by the pro Palestine crowd (those people are outstandingly hateful and disgusting). Both sides are so polarized over the topic, I decided to not discuss it any more with neither side. This is in the first place a reaction to the disgusting and hateful people on lemmy.ml, who are unable to accept any opinion from outside of their antisemitic, pseudo-left bubble and definitely not because of you guys but it´s all getting too cumbersome for me overall, so I will dropout of the topic in general.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry I made you feel attacked. It's just that's it unreasonable for a society who directly suffered from a horrible actor to forget that so soon. It was 2013 when they were in power last and 10 years is a blink of an eye in the timeline of a society. In 30-40 years I think the pain of the Brotherhood's actions may have healed enough that they would risk allowing the brotherhood in to aid in civilian casualties.

You're not wrong for seeing the suffering in Gaza and wanting it to stop. You're not wrong for seeing the atrocities of Hamas and calling them out.

I hope you have a great day.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’m sorry I made you feel attacked.

Never mind, it wasn't you. I was just getting tired of arguing with 20+ people from both sides simultaneously. Seems like whenever I say something neutral and humanist, at least one of both camps is gonna attack me, which one depends on the instance.

It’s just that’s it unreasonable for a society who directly suffered from a horrible actor to forget that so soon. It was 2013 when they were in power last and 10 years is a blink of an eye in the timeline of a society. In 30-40 years I think the pain of the Brotherhood’s actions may have healed enough that they would risk allowing the brotherhood in to aid in civilian casualties.

I totally understand that grudge, It's only human. However, I wish people were better at letting go of grudges. The whole Israel-Palestine situation would be less severe if people could.

You’re not wrong for seeing the suffering in Gaza and wanting it to stop. You’re not wrong for seeing the atrocities of Hamas and calling them out.

That is the first time someone says that to me here and I really needed to hear it!

I hope you have a great day.

Thank you for your nice reply and a great day to you too!