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His win is a direct result of the Supreme Court's decision in a pivotal LGBTQ+ rights case.

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[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't you? It's your business you can do what you want.

[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's your business but if you want to do business in the US, federal and a lot of state laws say you can’t discriminate against customers based on factors such as race, religion, sex or national origin.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how does this ruling reaffirm or change that?

[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This ruling confirms that people who are LGBTQ+ can be discriminated against in ways that other people cannot.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's kind of the point, right? So, are businesses allowed to do business with whoever they please? Does the discrimination clause prevent a business owner from deciding not to do business with some people? Which precedes the other?

[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US there are laws to protect certain groups against discrimination, so no, a business cannot legally just do business with whoever they please if they are discriminating against a protected group.

All this ruling shows is that LGBTQ+ folks are not a protected group and have less rights under the law than other groups (religious groups, for example).

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did this ruling explicitly strike lgbtq+ folk from the protected classes? I guess that's where I'm hung up.

Are they no longer a protected class or did this ruling just say that a business doesn't have to abide by the protected class rule in certain circumstances?

And to follow up, how far does that go? Where's the line?

[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Virginia passed a law adding sexual orientation and gender identity to its non-discrimination laws. This law was challenged and stuck down by citing a supreme court case (I think the one about a cake, but not sure) that said it infringed on the speech of the religious person.

As for how far it goes, good question. When the supreme court case ruled on that there was a lot of fear that it would lead to further discrimination around the country - it seems to be true so far.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for clearing it up for me. I do appreciate your repeated and helpful responses. Cheers mate