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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're the one who acts like more laws will stop these shootings. They're not even enforcing the ones on the books...at the end of the day, you either tell the truth and have the military go door to door and round up the firearms, causing a civil war or you put in more feel good laws about firearms you think look scary.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or you do a gun buyback program like Australia did. Then make firearms illegal without a license and a reason.

Then, like all other first world countries, you literally see murder plummeting.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Australia has around 1mil firearms in private hands...had a 60% turn in rate, and never had the murder rate we do anyways. If 60% of the USA turned in the firearms, you'd be left with over 100 million still out there.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s going to take 20-40 years to get into a comparable state to other first world countries. The difference is whether we start now or in 30 years. If we start in 30 years, it will take 50-70 years.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No it would not, it would take hundreds of years a potential millions of lives, because you just started a civil war...and you're not going to like who the military sides with.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whatever man. I don’t think you’re thinking your threats through. I think the leadership in the military; 1. Wouldn’t care about this because it doesn’t affect them, and 2. Are way more liberals than you give them credits, and 3. Are tired of the bullshit the Maga gun nuts are putting them through.

And I don’t believe a minute this would start a civil war. If Jan 6 didn’t start a civil war this definitely wouldn’t.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Most of the ground pounders are not liberals, most of the military doesn't just live on bases around the globe, most of the military lives in the same neighborhoods as guns owners...and Jan 6th was like 1k fucking idiots basically trying to destroy shit like children. Not millions of people who would over night become combatants because of a few people who want to kill people they disagree with.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Murder rates have been dropping in the US for decades, mass shootings are a small but high profile problem