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Isn't it strange how the US has had formidable firearms freedoms for >200 years but mass shootings only became commonplace some ~30 years ago?
Doesn't Canada have better access to mental healthcare?
Hmmm I wonder why there weren't any mass shootings TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO. What a ridiculous argument
Culture, politics, financial well being, careers, but also allowing the assault weapons ban to lapse in 2004.
Violent crime has actually decreased since that assault weapons ban ended.
Assault weapons were also still available to buy with high capacity magazines DURING the ban. It was completely ineffective actually.
Crazy thing is it's been 200 years since 200 years ago 🤯
Kinda hard to have a mass shooting with a flintlock.
Mmkay well they call it a 1911 because that was the year it was invented. What else ya got?
clearly it was all the good guys with guns stopping them.
...stopping whom?
potential shooters from 1911
Or maybe there just weren't any? Maybe mass shootings are a symptom of how fucked up our society has become?
yes, the society where beating your wife was a fact of life was certainly a normal one. all the lead in the air was good for your brain too! you know crime has gone down and only continues to drop, right? sorry, but the facts don't give a shit about your fear-mongering
This was made in 1881 a few months after the assassination of James Garfield
Mass shootings weren't commonplace, but the talking points sure were
Sorry I'm not sure what your point is
America's debate on guns has gone on well before mass shootings, and that the exact same points are brought up. Back then the big scary weapon was the revolver.
My point is none of this is truly new.
Yes I agree, it's a tired argument
Fully automatic weapons didn't exist back then.
How many fully automatic weapons do you think are used in mass shootings?
The answer is zero. This is the problem. You people want to regulate things you don't understand.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
Sad scenario but I would not consider this a mass shooting. This was fallout from a robbery attempt.
And this shooting displayed that the common police equipment of the time (pistols, shotguns) were ineffective against determined and well equipped criminals. Police wanted handy, precise rifles (AR-15), and better armour for themselves and vehicles in case of emergency.
So the police looked to relatively cheap mil surplus and things that were compatible with them, fast forward a few decades and that is why the police have a ton of military grade gear.
I don't know who needs to hear this but fully automatic weapons (1 trigger press=many bullets until the trigger is released) are not used in mass shootings.
Semi automatic weapons (1 trigger press=1 bullet) are and a majority of guns used in crime and defense belong in this category. I know some people get annoyed because it's seen as nitpicking but even if you are anti gun you need to understand guns enough to make a coherent argument. I recommend having someone you trust take you to a range if you can.
But yeah imagine a group of government officials wanted to regulate cell phones but constantly said tablets like the words are interchangable. Then they start using vague terms like "smart screens" all the time like it means one very particular thing. You see what I mean.
Since 1884, nice try.
Good luck carrying a Maxim Gun into a school to massacre children.
Yeah way too heavy. Wheel it around on a tripod or mount it to a wagon instead
Patented in 83. Thanks, Maxim! (The dude, not the magazine)