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Family sued after Sarah Katz died last year after drinking Charged Lemonade, apparently unaware of soda’s high caffeine content

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.panerabread.com/content/dam/panerabread/documents/c4-beverage-caffeine-guide.pdf

Cafe Blend Dark Roast Coffee, 13.4 mg caffeine per oz, so the equivalent 30 oz dark roast coffee would have 402 mg caffeine. And dark roasts are actually less caffeinated than light; light roast has 19.2 mg/oz, or 576 mg in a 30 oz.

But regardless of actual number, someone with caffeine sensitivity should see "as much caffeine as dark roast coffee" and at least consider whether that's appropriate for them (and for most, the appropriate amount of coffee is zero).

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well that's the point, isn't it? What if they didn't see the sign about the lemonade being hyper caffeinated? Why would you even look for a sign warning you about the caffeine content in lemonade?

Also, 30 oz is a lot of coffee. That's one and a half times the largest Starbucks coffee. That's a shitload of caffeine for a beverage that never has caffeine in it in any other restaurant or store anywhere.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. The full story will probably come out at trial.

I wouldn't say 30oz is a lot of coffee, though. It's less than two 16oz cups. A bit much for one person in a short period of time, but not unheard of. And the largest Starbucks size is actually a trenta, at 31oz.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Starbucks only sells cold drinks in trenta sizes, where the ice and/or milk is going to be a third of the volume. You can't get a 31 oz hot coffee. You are correct, you could buy two 16 oz coffees and get as much caffeine as Panera puts into their large lemonade, but if you ordered two 16 oz coffees, you know you're drinking two 16 oz coffees. The whole point of this lawsuit is that someone with a heart condition never expected lemonade to be jazzed to the tits with caffeine, and they died because of it.

Signs are only effective if people read them, and there's no reason anyone would bother to look for a warning sign on their lemonade. It's lemonade. Lemons, sugar, water, the simplest and most innocuous of all beverages. It's exactly what someone with a heart condition should feel comfortable ordering at any restaurant.

You can't trust orange soda or root beer or even seltzer because some brands are caffeinated, but lemonade is always safe. Except at Panera, where it has the caffeine of two energy drinks, enough to kill someone with a heart condition, because...