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Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Yet some people still claim Israel is the victim! When the truth is that Israel is a terrorist state.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ol' "you shot me in the foot so I burnt down your neighborhood and killed your entire extended family" defense. Unbeatable in the court of law.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, except I think Israel is the one to both start and end this.
I burnt down your house and killed your family, but because you shot me in the foot, I'll burn down your neighborhood and kill your entire extended family.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don't forget how they'll cry to all their friends and relatives that they were the victims all along.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That one doesn't hold up as well in court though...

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[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People see will see these numbers and still argue "they are showing restraint, if Israel was really evil they would just carpet bomb them all." Like what the fuck is this then?

[–] snek@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This excuse of "how is it genocide if there are still Palestinians alive? huh?" is such bullshit. Yes, let's wait for Israel to kill the very last Palestinian before we can bring out our memorials and cry over the genocide.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

"The Nazis are killing Jews? Why would they put them on train cars then and have them work? Wouldn't they just shoot them or bomb them right there? I don't think it's really as big a deal as it seems." -American in 1940

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[–] Kashbus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a bit more complicated than that no?

[–] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 1 points 1 year ago

No it is not and all the douche saying "hu it is a bit more complicated" are just full of crap. This is smoke and mirrors. There's no fucking sense, legitimization to their campaign on civilians, just fucking no.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it’s not complicated at all actually.

[–] Kashbus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you find it not complicated then you are either uneducated and not impartial

I hope for the former and that you will educate yourself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict)

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apartheid is not complicated. Sorry if that’s hard for you to understand.

[–] Kashbus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Article 34 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV states that the taking of hostages is prohibited

I'm sorry that you are so clouded by hate

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel is an apartheid state. Apartheid is the root cause of the entire conflict. It’s also illegal under international law. This isn’t hard.

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's becoming quite simple...

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Only if you are intellectually lazy and morally stupid.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How? Out of all middle east states, Israel is the only one where human rights are a thing.

I am not saying everything Israel does is great (especially in East Jerusalem) but the attacker is Hamas. They are the aggressor and have to be removed for good. Just like all terrorists.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it’s naive to think you can eradicate Hamas. The Brits couldn’t eliminate the IRA in Northern Ireland, nor could the Soviets eliminate the mujahideen. The US and French failed with the Viet Kong. The US just gave up on the Taliban…

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

I have to agree with this. However, I still believe it should be weakened as much as possible.

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