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If Hamas had operated strictly & solely against Israeli military units & installations on 10/7/23 and left civilians the hell alone, we wouldn't have to be here.
Hamas has never focused on military targets. Their founding charter specifically calls for the death of all Jews worldwide and forbids any conception of peace.
What you don't get is that most people are not justifying the brutal killing of 1400 Israeli people and kidnapping of 200.
We are just saying don't kill and punish civilians that had no say in this. Honestly at first I was on Israel's side, but now? Yeah you showed the world why there even IS a Hamas and how your bloodlust has no end.
Especially after the 'parking lot' comment and the harassment and killing of Palestinians on the West bank, oh I forgot about the 'if Israel was really targeting civilians why are there not more dead Palestinians than just 7000 and raising?
Just...quit. you're losing every minute you try to change the narrative. People went through years of this shit and nobody believes it anymore.
Who the fuck do you think you're replying to, troll?
How many civilians are you personally comfortable with dying, past those already dead. No “they’re in the way” bullshit. Give your conscience a number.
War is shitty, that's why it's used as a final option
Comfortable with? Zero. None of this is comfortable. Nobody is happy right now. It's not like 10/7, when people went around rejoicing in Jewish suffering—now that the war is on, everybody is upset.
I've yet to hear a serious alternative.
The western media interviewed her in English instead of making up some bullshit translation.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/24/hostage-hamas-released-israel-ebof-sot-vpx.cnn
What does Arabic have to do with the source you posted?
You know that language wasn't Arabic, right?
I can't believe you're still acting like you have moral superiority here lol
"OK, fine - I made up my whole argument, but you're probably lying too! Afterall, it's what I'd do!"
I mean jeez, if you're going to lie through your teeth about something to try and support some made up point, at least take the 5 seconds to do find out what it is you're lying about
Edit: lol, he blocked me - what a tool
What? I don't speak enough Hebrew to understand her interview in Hebrew, which is why I provided her testimony in English, which you can understand without a need of a Translation, and which also addressed your confused question of why Western media wasn't reporting on it—it was.
And then you went on to tell the stupidest fucking lie in this thread.
So what are you bitching about?
But the Israelis killed themselves is just the kind of BS hamas is known for.
The quote is from a civilian hostage, not Hamas.
The quote is from a news site you've never heard of. Here she is speaking in English on CNN.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/24/hostage-hamas-released-israel-ebof-sot-vpx.cnn
I saw the CNN interview. She didn’t mention the Israeli troops murdering civilians. The interview was with an Israeli radio station and reported on by Haaretz, which is a well known Israeli newspaper.
I cannot find any sign of Yasmin Porat's name on Haaretz, at least not in their English site. Can you link to the report you're talking about?
Sorry, Haaretz wasn’t her, it was a guy named Tuval, but is in Hebrew. He said:
Jacobin article about Yasmin Porat. But again, that references the radio interview, which has been removed since. This is not a hill I’m willing to die on. With scant sources that reference each other and censoring, take this account with skepticism.