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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again being an officially recognized state has nothing to do with it. You act like colonized people have no inherent right unless the UN recognizes them as a state. That is not only false but laughably absurd.

You've created a completely arbitrary rule that demonizes Arabs for really racist reasons.

Palestine was recognized by the people who lived their as theirs. For thousands of years. Doesn't matter if it was ottoman or England. Those Palestinians were there until English decisions pushed them off the land.

Those are facts u can't dispute.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said they took over someone's country, and that never happened. I certainly didn't bring up a factually-incorrect point and argue against it.

Palestine was recognized by the people who lived their as theirs. For thousands of years.

This is an extreme oversimplification that also denies there were many ethnic groups in the region. There was no "Palestinian" identity for those thousands of years.

I strongly support a two-state solution and Palestine becoming a country for the first time ever. Hamas does not.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you're just being pedantic. Yes in 1948 what was considered Palestine wasn't an official country as recognized by the UN.

Again. None of that is relevant.

The people who were there were forced out to make way for a un recognized "state."

You're pretending like it's ok because the UN didn't recognize this area as a state already...despite the fact it was widely recognized by everyone else who actually lived there to be what we now call Palestine.

You could make the exact same argument for how the Germans treated the Jews... Makes you realize you're the bad guy here doesn't it.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is fuckin ridiculous man.

Some light reading, that may perhaps educate you on the significantly longer and more complex situation that you like to pretend - like the fact that the area was majority Jewish before Israel existed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

I'm not sorry the Ottoman Empire was dismantled. Though their culture impresses me, the rest of their history does not.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you knew what apartheid meant you'd know how fucking dumb that line is.

Consider actually educating yourself. It's not hard.