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So much propaganda in this article.
Knowing you won't be able to retire, and making plans accordingly, is acceptance of the situation.
It's not a fucking preference.
I could see some people wanting low level jobs in their retirement because they don’t know what to do with their time otherwise.
But it should absolutely not be a requirement.
For sure.
A some people do just like to work.
But I think most people would prefer to do their own things, work on their own projects and hobbies, instead of someone else's.
Acting like it's a preference to work past retirement, instead of a the financial reality for most of us, is such a load of horseshit I was tempted to write a complaint to the editor that this wasn't published as an opinion.
Was this in 2008?
Definitely. When I was a teenager this retired guy Al worked at chick fil a with me, not because he needed to but he wanted to. He had a cushy position too. He would just go talk to customers and make sure they had refills and stuff. Great guy, taught me a lot about life.
What a fucking garbage take.
This isn't a lifestyle. This is how life used to be for most people.
Lol even the summary says what they really mean
“3/4 of gen z know that the world is probably gonna be pretty fucked up when they reach retirement age, so they’re doing their best to live an ok life before that happens”
Literally all of the climate change stuff they said was going to happen 50 years from now is happening now. So yeah I'm going to be 70 years old fighting for scraps with a billion refugees in lower Canada. Why the fuck shouldn't I make sure I have fun now? The odds of getting enough money to get out of that situation are vanishingly small so fuck it.
So sick if seeing these articles framing "millennials/gen z killed xyz" as a preference or a want.
Remember when we killed the diamond wedding ring industry? We can't pay our rent ffs.
That industry deserved death tbh, and so does the diamond mining industry in general
They used to advertise a diamond engagement ring as costing 'three months' salary' since that was painful, but affordable.
Who can afford to sacrifice one month's salary anymore?
This is it, right here. I'm a little older than the age range listed in the article and I literally became a nurse with the explicit expectation that I will have to work until I can't stand up anymore. At least this pays well and gives me lots of options for working environments that might be a little more compatible with old age.
But the idea that I'll ever be able to not work AND also afford healthcare? Impossible. Not going to happen. Might as well accept it.
News update! Young people enjoy freezing temperatures so much they get coats. More at 8.