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[–] 0ryX@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also look at the US: who gave Ukraine white phosphorus to use against the Russians. I'm not saying I support Russia what so ever but there are international laws that protect human rights and the west clearly thinks it doesn't apply to them

[–] Steve0Greatness@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm trying to find something about this, but all I can find is articles saying Russia used white phosphorus. Where did you see this?

[–] 0ryX@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it was cluster bombs which are also against international law, but I swear I heard that today either on the news or read it somewhere. I'll keep looking [https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-provide-cluster-munitions-ukraine-part-new-military-100836526]

[–] adriaan@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Russia uses cluster bombs too though? Cluster bombs are bad because unexploded munitions are a lot like mines. The fighting is happening in Ukraine, not in Russia, and Ukraine is already littered with mines and unexploded munitions because of Russia's use of both from the start of the war.

[–] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On top of that Israel's President Herzog basically admitting to collective punishment but everyone is treating it like just another Saturday in Suburbia.

[–] SteveHeist@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

The thing about laws is...

Well, someone has to enforce them.

So when the people breaking the law are also the people primarily tasked with enforcing it...

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

White phosphorus munitions can legally be used on battlefields to make smoke screens, generate illumination, mark targets or burn bunkers and buildings. Because it has legal uses, white phosphorus is not banned as a chemical weapon under international conventions, but it can cause serious burns and start fires.

You just can't use it to hit people (I don't think you're allowed set buildings on fire to kill people either)

And Israel is on thin ice because they used white phosphorous before in '09 (not claiming they used it illegally because I can't find a source that will say one way or the other)

[–] 0ryX@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munitions#International_law Article 1 of Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons defines an incendiary weapon as "any weapon or munition which is primarily designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injury to persons through the action of flame, heat, or combination thereof, produced by a chemical reaction of a substance delivered on the target". Article 2 of the same protocol prohibits the deliberate use of incendiary weapons against civilian targets (already forbidden by the Geneva Conventions)