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The Israeli Ministry of Defense and the IDF notified the UN just before midnight local time that Palestinians living north of Wadi Gaza should evacuate to the southern part of the Gaza Strip in the next 24 hours, according to UN spokesperson Stéphane Dujarric and another source with direct knowledge.

The big picture: More than 1 million Palestinians live in this area. The message could be a signal that the Israeli military is preparing for an imminent ground operation.

The sources told Axios that the IDF's reason for the notification was in order for civilians not to be hurt by the military's actions and operations.
More than 1,530 Palestinians and 1,200 Israelis have been killed, thousands have been injured, and hundreds of thousands of others have been displaced since the latest fighting between Israel and Hamas began. Hamas is believed to be holding about 150 hostages in Gaza.

Driving the news: The Israeli military has carried out a heavy bombardment of Gaza since Hamas militants attacked Israel on Saturday.

It's also imposed a "complete siege" on the enclave, which is home to more than 2 million Palestinians. 

What they're saying: The IDF said in an announcement to Gaza City residents that they should all evacuate and move south of Wadi Gaza.

It will "continue to operate significantly in Gaza City" in the coming days and Israeli forces will "make extensive efforts to avoid harming civilians," the IDF said.
"You will be able to return to Gaza only when another announcement permitting it is made," the IDF said.
The IDF urged residents to distance themselves from Hamas, which it said was using them as human shields.
It warned civilians not to approach the area of a security fence with Israel because it said Hamas militants were hiding in tunnels "underneath homes and buildings and populated with innocent Gazan civilians."

Meanwhile, Dujarric told Axios: "Today, just before midnight local time, team leaders of the UN Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs and the Department of Safety and Security in Gaza were informed by their liaison officers in the Israeli military that the entire population of Gaza north of Wadi Gaza should relocate to southern Gaza within the next 24 hours.

"This amounts to approximately 1.1 million people. The same order applied to all UN staff and those sheltered in UN facilities – including schools, health centers and clinics," Dujarric said.
"The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences," Dujarric added. 

"The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation."

State of play: UN Secretary-General António Guterres spoke twice on Thursday night with Israeli Ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan and said he wants to get clarification at the highest political level about Israel's request to evacuate the population from the northern Gaza strip, a UN source said.

Erdan in a statement called the "UN's response to Israel's early warning to the residents of Gaza is shameful!"
"For many years, the UN has turned a blind eye to the arming of Hamas and its use of the civilian population and civilian infrastructure in the Gaza Strip as a hiding place for its weapons and murder," Erdan said.
"Now, instead of standing by Israel, whose citizens were slaughtered by Hamas terrorists and who tries to minimize harm to those not involved, it preaches to Israel. It is better for the UN to focus now on returning the hostages, condemning Hamas, and supporting Israel's right to defend itself," he said. 
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[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia and Ukraine are both states, Hamas is a terrorist group. And Israel is a Middle Eastern country, hardly "the west".

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is the elected civil government of a population of 2 million people. Just because you don't like them doesn't change that.

Russia also commits heinous acts of terrorism against civilians and you don't call them terrorists. Why is that?

[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is a horrible country, but there's a difference between a state that commits acts of terrorism and a terrorist group. That a terrorist group is the elected representative of 2 million Palestinians speaks volumes.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the difference between a state that commits terrorist acts and a terrorist group elected in a democratic election?

Mostly how many other countries recognise them, other than that, literally nothing.

[–] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sugarfree Given Israel's conduct lately, calling them anything less than a terrorist state is overly charitable

[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Israel is a Jewish state surrounded by countries that hate Jews and want to kill Jews. They have had to defend themselves against all of their neighbors over the years and it's still happening today. If Israel was a terrorist state, Gaza would not exist.

[–] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sugarfree I can't hear you over the sound of your Israeli propaganda. Especially considering the ethnic cleansing Israel has conducted against the Palestinians for generations

[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The population of Palestine has basically doubled in the last 30 years, not a very good job of "ethnic cleansing" by the Israelis.

@sugarfree the population size isn't the issue, the population's confinement is

Especially since Israel sabotaged the peace process

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

@sugarfree looking at a map and a timeline, you are 100% incorrect