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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The solution is so simple. Vote overwhelming for progressive, and get rid of the centrists and Republicans.

We'd have free, universal healthcare within a couple of years.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First you need overwhelming numbers to join the Democrat party to make sure a progressive candidate gets leadership of the party. Otherwise it will just be Hillary Clintons beating out Bernie Sanders every time.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real for real, the sheer level of conspiracism and explaining away the fact that Boomers will actually go out and fucking vote.

It can't be that the people who disagree with them go out and do the one "praxis" they have to be dragged out kicking and screaming to do even for the guy they claim to support, no, clearly the DNC is responsible for Bernie losing a race he got less votes in!

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the DNC absolutely kneecapped Bernie when he was running against Hillary. I mean, we literally have the emails to prove it.

Against Biden, the issue wasn't the DNC as much as it was Elizabeth Warren refusing to consolidate the liberals behind Bernie as the moderates consolidated behind Biden. The final nail in the coffin was the prominent black leader who thew his support to Biden and handed him a critical victory in one of the southern states. This always annoyed me deeply, because Bernie was literally out there getting arrested to fight for their civil rights while Biden was on the wrong side of the busing civil rights issue.

Oh well. At least Bernie dragged Biden much farther left than he would have been.

[–] msage@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you link me the emails please?

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well... At this point boomers will soon be losing their death grip in the party because of attrition. They're getting old. Millennials will soon outnumber them in terms of likely voters.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's a generational thing. Whatever corruption kept Biden from doing single payer healthcare will also stop younger presidents from doing it.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assuming USA, it unfortunately means doing this in the primaries. Good luck getting people to show up to those and vote progressive.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me about it. We could have had Bernie.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bernie was a beneficiary of the DNC fuckery. They wanted an "unhinged commie" to scare the base into line behind Hillary.

The reality is America won't go actually progressive until the world is dead.

[–] PowerGloveSoBad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So you're saying it'll be soon then? fingers crossed

Simple isn't always easy.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

The country founded on genocide because the UK didn't want them doing slavery is never going to allow that to happen.