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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, but how likely is a grizzly attack?

According to the US Natl Park Service it is 1 in 2.1 million. Dying from a bee sting is more likely.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/150916-bears-attacks-animals-science-north-america-grizzlies

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well dying from a bee sting if you’re allergic is pretty common if you don’t have an epi pen. So yes, common.

There is a massive difference and approach to bears it on a special park Vs wild.

Over in your city folk safari zoo, in which you think you’re ‘in the wild’, you are not.

In the wild, Grizzlies will rip you. https://youtu.be/K-Tfq6dARGk?si=EQLh0ahqdzOVkRWJ

They are very fuckin dangerous. And very fuckin fast. They eat other grizzly bears without mercy too. Especially if there’s not enough salmon around.

In Canada kills by bears in the green belt is a known risk and they have procedures to try to lessen interference with the wild life for this reason. That’s the only reason why the deaths are down. It’s not like rural people are flaunting themselves at wildlife and have them as pets. The deaths start going up when city folk start wandering into the wild thinking every bear is a big ol puppy dog.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you have any statistics to provide I would love to see them.

Meanwhile, yes Grizzlies can be extremely dangerous on the rare occasion they attack. How dangerous they are doesn't change the odds of being attacked. It just means you're more likely fucked if one does attack you. It's ok to be scared shitless of them. I am. But don't let the fear taint your reasoning.

Here are some more statistics. Hopefully folks can set aside their fear for a moment and analyze the risk with a level head. Keep in mind the number of visitors to wild areas is quite large.

  • There were 183 bear attacks in North America between 2000–2015.
  • There are 40 bear attacks around the world every year.
  • The odds of being attacked by a bear are one in 2.1 million.
  • On average, 24 deaths were caused by grizzly bears between 2000–2015.
  • There were six fatal bear attacks in Alaska from 2008–2018.
  • There were 22 human-bear incidents in the US Yosemite National Park in 2019.

https://petpedia.co/bear-attack-statistics/

Oh and by the way if you think national parks are just zoos, please by all means go tell that up close to the free roaming wild moose and bears in Yellowstone or Elk in Rocky Mountain National Park, especially during the rut, and see how that works out for ya.

Being in the backcountry where you don't have as much wildlife management might be riskier. Although I would love to see statistics because many factors could play in. Bears being habituated to human presence and especially food is a major issue that increases bear encounters. So it's possible that backcountry encounters are rarer than in heavily visited parks.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Statistics? You’re not my job. I don’t work for you. I don’t do homework. And I owe you nothing. And I especially don’t owe you free work you entitled asshat.

And I won’t shut up from at least warning people so deal with it. And you’re so bent on hugging a grizzly, go for it mate, I can’t stop you. You’re not my job. you are absolutely full of shit.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Wow ok.... Backs slowly away