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archive.today • Democratic Leaders Are More Optimistic About Biden 2024 Than Voters - The New York Times

“I’m looking at all the polling, and I’m amazed that it has so little to do with reality. [...] A big part of it is just pure ageism. The American people are prejudiced against old people.”

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“It’s not just about which president can get through the day without tripping or stumbling over their words, which everybody is going to do, but which president is going to lead this country forward in a way that helps people solve problems and keeps American democracy intact.”

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[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol dem operatives just straight up doing the Principal Skinner meme. Is Biden too old? No, it's the voters who are wrong.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I saw libs on reddit-logo just straight up saying

"yes-chad it is the voters who are wrong"

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hexbears are cynical about r/politics and of course I agree but if you actually hang out there - you notice something that happens like clockwork. Redditors there can be (very) critical of something like Biden's age and the age of the other dinosaurs in congress. But once an election is "close" in time like clockwork they start to close ranks and they begin to sound like dem operatives. They won't go as far as....

No, it's the voters who are wrong.

But they do make things binary - "Look, Biden's not perfect but nobody is and you don't want Trump to win - do you?"

Before Trump - close in time to an election was ~6 months out. Now "close" can be more than a year out. A few weeks ago I started a Hexbear thread about a front page r/politics post that already had a binary vibe. Although astroturfing in that sub exists - I think many of the redditors were real people. For me - it makes it worse if many comments are real.

Principal Skinner meme

I wonder if you used that in a r/politics comment if you'd get a warning (or even a ban) from the mods. It's such a shit sub. They act like every thread is equivalent to a debate in a large room with expensive wood paneling and the quality of the discourse must be policed accordingly.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We should switch to six year terms with a confidence vote at 3 years. Dont pass the confidence vote? You dont get to run for a second term.

Oh and the confidence vote has to be raw numbers no electoral fuckery or congressional approval.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, the midterms are already a vote of confidence.

If you changed it to be a single six year term, then maybe that would work, but we already have that for senators and they suck shit.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see the principal skinner meme being quoted there once in a while. As far as I can tell, it flies under the ban radar, but the libs will just say "yes. It is the voters who are wrong". If I see another one, I'll come back and link it. I swear I saw one today

Edit: here it is