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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember reading True Believer by Eric Hoffer ages ago and for some reason that book comes to mind when I think of people that were seemingly on the left, but somewhere, they took a dark turn and/or they become unwitting (or witting?) agents of outfits like Russia. Let's see:

Greenwald, Sinema, Stein, Tulsi Gabbard, Taibbi, RFK jr, Marianne Williamson, Naomi Wolf....

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, I just realized that each of those people give me the same impression: They all remind me of the various types of Russian trolls one might meet online.

  • You've got the "Fox News favorites," the Democrats who constantly appear on right-wing media to denigrate other Democrats and reassure their viewers that everything Fox says is true.
  • Then there's the "Pac-Man right-wingers," the ones who present themselves as so far to the left that they've done the Pac-Man thing and looped from the left side of the screen to the right.
  • And finally there's the "Look at me, I'm crazy" types, the ones who pretend to be absurd caricatures of the left, expressing exaggerated, straw-man versions Democratic positions as if they're the real thing.

Most Russian trolls online are designed to convince conservatives in America of various insane "facts" about Democrats, and they use various tactics to do it. The majority of the troll accounts pretend to be American conservatives and spread intentional disinformation and misinformation, but some try to play the role of people on the left, to convince conservatives that the left is insane.

And every name on your list reminds me of those trolls.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The Naomi Wolf thing is just so strange - when someone first mentioned it, I was not even quite willing to believe it. I do wonder if something legit happens to someone's brain as they get older and complete nonsense sets in. It also might be that a certain type of woman is prone to feeling alienated as they age - meaning: women that were exceptionally attractive when they were younger (like Naomi Wolf) may have a lot to deal with as they age, and find that people may not cater to them as much as they had before and this is a rude awakening, I'm sure...some men may deal with this too, I dunno - thinking Charles in Charge and Kirk Cameron.

And looking in on this again, it looks like Naomi Klein was getting confused with her "doppelganger" so much that she ended up writing a book about it that only recently came out?

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/09/doppelganger-a-trip-into-the-mirror-world-by-naomi-klein-review-a-case-of-mistaken-identity

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

David Rubin and Candace Owens used to be on the left until they realized how lucrative it was being on the right too.