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How did that work out for Ralph Nader? Because that was what he did. He got a tiny percentage of the vote. You are making a lot of assumptions and you don't seem to be basing them on any evidence.
Guess what? Contrary to the convictions of Dem strategists, the year is 2023, NOT 1996. Millenials are the first generation not to become more conservative with age and gen Z are following that trend.
In 1996 where traditional mass media controlled the entirety of the political narrative, there was no way someone could win on the left, but guess what? They don't get to decide the news any more and partly because of that, almost every progressive policy position has 60%+ popular backing even as lesser evil neoliberals call it wishful thinking.
Anyways, we're done here. Neither of us are convincing the other of anything and I have better things to waste my time on than you and your locked in ways. Have the day you deserve.
Basically, as far as I can tell, your argument is that as long as there is an honest candidate running third party, all the people who are not voting now will vote and vote for this person, along with a lot of the people who would normally vote Democrat and/or Republican, giving them enough votes to beat both the Democratic and the Republican candidate and thus gain the presidency. And then they will change the voting laws, presumably somehow unilaterally, to ensure that people like this candidate will get voted into office, which is a 'future influences the past' thing I don't understand.
This is based on so many evidence-free assumptions that I agree, I can't argue with your faith. So I guess we are, in fact, done here.