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[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 177 points 1 year ago (28 children)

How the hell do they want to convince people this is a good thing?

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 139 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Make em think their tax money is paying for "Ni--er food" and they'll burn down the entire education system.

Hell, replace Nword with F-word or Kword honestly doesn't matter.

Source: What happened to all the public swimming pools after Desegregation? And That one time a Republican signed a strict anti gun law the second the Black community exercised their Second.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This town had a lovely swimming pool which was suddenly closed and filled in during the 1960s. I can't imagine why.

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the Fword or the Kword?

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. I couldn't figure out the K word, despite the fact that I literally wrote a joke that requires it.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (35 children)

“Free meals is communist!!”

Which… If you think like they do, then socialism==communism==unamerican.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Public schools are already under that banner. This shouldn't even be a question.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

And they want to do away with public schools...I'd say that tracks for them.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

conservative americans LOVE making communism sound idyllic

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People who want others to suffer will support this. This will almost only impact low income (mostly minority) populations, the kind that republic voter love to hurt

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can't punish bad parents by punishing their children. Even if their viewpoint was right this would make no sense.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except, Republicans love to punish the children of poor parents for the crime of being poor.

You don't have to be a bad parent to be poor, you just have to be poor.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The assumption I mentioned was that in their worldview being poor is also being bad parents. Regardless, punishing children accomplishes nothing.

[–] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Kids that grow up hungry are more likely to enter the workforce early, doing the low-wage "essential role" jobs that the capital class desperately needs bodies for. Breaking the cycle of poverty is a big no-no for the 1%.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

It hurts people. That's the goal.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah it does. The cruelty is the point. They're trying to punish children and their parents for being (mostly non-White) poor.

At the same time, they're trying to turbocharge the school to prison pipeline so their owner donors from the prison industrial complex can profit off poverty and perpetuate more themselves, leading to an infinite loop of poverty, misery and demonization for anyone who's not already a rich cishet white man.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You're trying to use logic against the illogical.

Like throwing paper at a brick wall trying to knock it down

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

These are the same people who think you can beat the gay out of a child. They think being cruel helps people.

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They don’t care if the parents are bad or not, but hey just want to hurt poor people and minorities, to lost republicans those words are the same thing.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Going usual playbook, they'd prolly declare it "woke" and mumble the boilerplate shit about taxes, bootstraps, and communism.

[–] Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The USA is a deeply racist settler colony founded on doing violence to those without the privilege to escape it. The idea that someone "undeserving" might get a benefit from one's tax payment enrages the Republican voting base which is mostly white men who make over $50k a year.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

mostly white men who make over $50k a year.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/

About 60% of American households cross that threshold. It kinda comes off like you're saying people who make that much are overprivileged.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suspect his information is out of date, $50k isn't a lot of money but 10 or 20 years ago it was.

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[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

This chart bothers me because the y-axis is all over the place in terms of range. Sometimes it's $15k range, sometimes it's $30k, sometimes it's $50k. Really skews the data.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I suppose taxes.

I’m a republican and I fully support free school meals. We are already taxed for books, building, teachers, etc.

I’d fully support basic supplies and meals as well. It just makes sense to make sure all students have the basic needs met since we are paying for it.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instead of defining yourself by party membership in a group that doesn't represent you, maybe you should think about not being a member of that party?

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a registered Democrat, but that doesn't stop me disagreeing with the Democratic party on plenty of issues. The vast majority of people don't adhere 100% to their party's politics, especially with the big-tent two-party system in the US. I can't speak for the person to whom you're responding, but you can't extrapolate from their disagreement on one issue to disagreement on others.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but this particular idea is intentionally letting children starve. Would you really want to associate yourself with a group that wanted to do that if you were against it?

It's like saying, "I'm on their side, but I don't agree with their 'kill the asylum seekers' policy." (I assume that will be a policy of theirs eventually.) How morally repugnant does a group have to get before you disassociate yourself with them?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It already is policy for some of them, see Abbott's death trap along the Rio Grande or DeSantis wanting to station his state guard on major crossings to shoot undocumented migrants.

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[–] snooggums@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Getting people to think about identifying based on party membership is important to get people to actually think about whether they should be a member of that party. Sure, they might be all in on racist wall building, insurrection, and blowing Trump.

But maybe a nudge can help them be a little introspective and think more broadly about whether they picked the right team if their team wants children to go hungry. Just trying to get them to think about things, not saying every party member needs to agree with everything about their party.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

If you only identify yourself as being Republican because you consider yourself to be a conservative then I've got good news for you, no need to associate with the wackos, the US Democrats are the conservatives of the countries where there actually exists a political spectrum that extends further left than right of center 👍

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based, lobby your representatives and let's try and get the basics down in a bipartisanly

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[–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

By convincing them that their taxes shouldn't come back to them in any way and should instead be used for a higher purpose. Corporation, that's the higher purpose.

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