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A judge says that a Florida redistricting plan pushed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis violates the state constitution.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah at a certain point they need to have a constitutional map handed to them

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that many states task the legislature with drawing the map. The legislature gets to pick who voted for them. If they make an unconstitutional one, they just have to draw more unconstitutional ones until there is no time left. If the Court tried to do it themselves because of the legislature's failure, they can sue because that responsibility was directly assigned to them. They need to take that responsibility away from the legislature in their Constitution. This should happen in every state.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They would sue the courts? Who would even oversee that? SCOTUS has already said they want no part of state election issues.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I should have said appealed. A judge will rule that their 5th map is also unconstitutional and they clearly cannot be tasked with making the map. So the judge makes one that would work or tasks a committee to do it. Republicans then appeal that decision because the constitution or a law specifies that the legislature creates the maps. They appeal up to the state Supreme Court.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

See, THIS. Is the kind of thing AI should actually be being used for.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

You don't even need AI for this, a very simple easy to audit algorithm could take care of it.

Hell, have it generate a few dozen versions that are all approximately as good, and let representatives (or even better, the actual people) vote on which to use

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 13 points 1 year ago

AI isn't magical, you give it instructions to get an output. It also uses history to base its decisions on. Both of those things need humans to guide it, and those same people making shitty decisions now will just use AI to cloak shit in an the guise of unbiased computers.

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easier said than done.

Mapping is a very unique issue with a whole distinct set of mathematics whose is purpose is to try to make it easier, https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/discrete-mathematics-tutorial/#:~:text=Discrete%20Mathematics%20is%20a%20branch,logic%2Dbased%20statements%2C%20etc.

In addition to that, we've already seen AI school bus routes that had kids riding a bus until 9pm. https://fortune.com/2023/08/16/louisville-jefferson-school-bus-alpharoute-tech-firm-ohio-cincinnati/

Plainly put, having an AI that can understand districting and create districts based abstract ideas like "equal fairness" is quite difficult :(

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d rather folks working on AI focus on stuff like making mapping better than on to better ways of ripping off artists and writers.

[–] arensb@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they will, as soon as mapping is more profitable.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unless ~~pirating~~ privateering becomes popular again

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

They do, just to rig it instead. Let's use it to make fair maps.