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The shooter, a white man, killed three people after writing messages of hatred for Black people. He killed himself after opening fire in a dollar store.

A white gunman fatally shot three Black people in hate-motivated shooting at a Dollar General retailer in Jacksonville on Saturday afternoon, Sheriff T.K. Waters said.

"This shooting was racially motivated, and he hated Black people," the sheriff said at a news conference. "He wanted to kill n------."

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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

“This was, quite frankly, a maniac who decided he wanted to take lives,”

~~Copycat shooter with a manifesto, armed with the usual kit: A plate carrier, an AR-15, and a Glock.~~

~~While I can see this is a racially motivated shooting, I think this pattern indicates some deeper... suicidal, martyrdom ideology. The intent includes the suicide. It's suicidally motivated, too. These plans include the repetitive messaging of a newsfeed marching down the list of mass shootings by scared whitr supremacists. Racial killing, suicide, manifesto, and the date makes it a copycat killing. Is he truly a maniac, if so many are falling into this same set of cowardly cries for help?~~

~~I feel no sympathy for the dead shooter. But I stare into the abyss, feeling I must empathize with the scared white supremacist who does this next.~~

~~Stochastic Terrorism (wiki)~~

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I must empathize with the scared white supremacist who does this next.

Really?! What the fuck?

Conservatives do not empathize with you. They see empathy as a weakness to exploit. Do not empathize with them unless you'd like to become their next victim.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can empathize with someone without being exploited by them. I empathize with prisoners suffering in solitary confinement because I consider it inhumane. That doesn't mean I'm going to allow myself to be attacked by a murderous psychopath without defending myself.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Empathy is not agreement or defense, it's understanding. Refusing to empathize is refusing to find a solution. Stop being part of the problem.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would say refusing to empathize is more akin to refusing to try and understand the person and their plight. That in turn can lead to missing potential solutions that work for all or most parties

Semantics of course

You've just accidentally said you see empathy as a weakness too

[–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah if youve ever had a job surrounded by a lot of conservatives you will quickly find out how correct you are. Peoppe that dont grow out of middle school become conservatives.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only possible way to try to prevent it is to try and talk them down before hand.

I mean, aside from the obvious gun legislation that won't happen

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fuck em. Let them all suicide their way out. As long as they stop taking innocent people with them, they can die in agony in a ditch as far as I’m concerned. The time for sympathy is over.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

But the problem is they don't stop. And they're being encouraged to kill.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

he was out of his mind with FEAR.. nothing else..

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're probably not wrong. Conservatives have been shown to have a larger amygdala, yielding a greater reaction to fear and disgust.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that's true for "stupid" people in general.. peasants and morons, people like that..

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not sure why the downvotes, I think you're right, fear is at the source of this muderous behaviour. This is the meaning carried by the "phobia" in "negrophobia", " homophobia", etc. These people feel their very existence is threatened by their victims : they've been indoctrinated into thinking their "race" or "culture" are driven to extinction by other people. So yes, it's absolutely fear.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

more to the point maybe, it's useless to try to find a coherent idea inside their heads, with the idea of treating it, or heading it off in others or something.. they consume a steady diet of fear inducing media, and look to their gun as the only help.. when they snap, they're just looking for the most convenient excuse to use the firearm finally..

it isn't about anyone's "race" (that idea never makes sense anyway), so much as someone is telling him appearance or culture is a fear vector for him (i.e. people who look and think differently hate HIM).. he's listening for any reason to be afraid, it really doesn't matter..

in fact, trying to assign the problem to his race or a racial idea is just doing the same in reverse.. trying to find a reason to fear someone and create a fear vector in people's minds..

and just to reiterate because it's so important: it is USELESS to try to find a coherent idea of any kind in those heads