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I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.

Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a "Skip"/"Don't remind me again". Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I'd expect not to be bothered again. It's really a built in ad more then anything.

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Note to be less pessimistic about this:

This is exactly how you are supposed to handle system settings being added to, removed or modified. You re-display a limited version of the first-run setup dialogue to the user. It feels familiar, they see it every so often, but you reduce it to the relevant pieces.

You may not like what MS changes, but from a user workflow this is sort-of the best case.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be better if there was a no option and not just a delay.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but the reason many companies stopped offering that (and we had this problem, too) is that users journalize clicking that like they click "OK" in installers or for cookies.

And when you have stuff that is important, they're used to never interacting with it mentally.

Sure here it's just about tracking shit and defaults, but there's good reason to force the user to engage with something that could be an important setting.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of these are important settings though. These are all just ads for Microsoft services. The only one that even appears remotely important, changing browser settings, is really just trying to get you to set Edge as the default browser again, so really just another advertisement.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I agree. That's why my first post said, the overall UX behind this is solid, even if they use it for shitty purposes.

[–] Fubar91@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Careful buddy, you can't make logical points about windows systems. The Linux gooners on Lemmy are ready to beat their meat aggressively while taking your points out of context. Even if you agree with them overall.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I could imagine that for stuff like not having set up any internet connection, as long as there's a setting to disable the reminder for those who know what they're doing. But for these services, absolutely not, that's literally spam at that point and arguably falls under anti spam laws which makes it illegal to not have opt-out available.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These aren't new or changed system settings though, apart from maybe Windows Hello (which isn't new anyway). Nearly everything on this screen is an attempt to upsell users on Microsoft's subscription products.

If a user doesn't want to buy those subscription products, and is given no way to properly decline, that it is a user hostile experience.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 year ago

And having no other option than "remind me in 3 days" is bullshit which should get the product manager who signed off on it sent to prison

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I'm fairly certain it can be turned off in windows notifications settings. "OS Setup Notifications" or something like that