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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet people still argue russians aren't barbarian terrorists.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You should be wary of labelling an entire group by the actions of a few.

Do the war crimes committed in Abu Ghrabi make all Americans barbarian terrorists?

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While it's true that it's not the entirety of the Russian population, there's still the oligarchs, mercenaries, media outlets, the entire government body, and a fuck ton of the military, all more than happy to fuck over their ex-comrades as soon as they get the green light. I'm pretty sure that's who we mean when we generalize "Russians".

As a Latin American, this applies to Americans as well. Much love to a decent part (if not most) of the people there, but FUCK the US for fucking us all over with banana republics, neoliberalism, and red scare shenanigans, only for them to then have the galls to turn out to be xenophobic, warmongering, orangeman-loving fundamentalist pieces of shit.

Anyway, Russia, right. Fuck Putin and his greasy ball of oligarchs.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the Americans used to be on the side of the Taliban when it suited them in a proxy war with Russia.

The point I'm making is that most people want a quiet and happy life. I know that dehumanising the enemy is a natural part of war, but try to be mindful of that and leave civilians out of it.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the Americans used to be on the side of the Taliban when it suited them in a proxy war with Russia.

The Mujahideen of the 80s weren't the Taliban. The Mujahideen-led government of the early 90s was quite explicitly attacked and overthrown by the Taliban, and reformed into the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, which still existed by the time of our intervention in Afghanistan in 2001.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Abu Ghraib perpetrators went to prison, while this asshole went on TV.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Case in point, you're making the assumption that all Russians support the killing of these POWs.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Huh, no I'm not? I'm saying the army's and the media's reaction to war crimes is better in the west than in Russia. Russian society seems pretty fucked up, but I know that most of individual Russians don't have a say in it.