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[–] artvandelay@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Vaccines are typically meant to protect against viruses or bacteria. Cancer is neither of those. hiv is a virus but the political will to produce effective treatments was not always there. I think a lot of young people underestimate the homophobia that was pervasive not all that long ago and how it was tied to the aids epidemic.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are some promising efforts for vaccines against cancer. It's teaching your immune system to kill cells that were supposed to die on their own. It's a relatively recent development, though.

Plus, as should always be stated with cancer treatments, there is no singular "cancer". It's a class of related problems that need to be handled individually. Vaccine against prostate cancer shouldn't be expected to work against breast cancer. Anything that claims to cure cancer in a blanket way should be treated with great suspicion.

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The mrna vaccines that allowed us to quickly target covid were under development for targeting cancers. We all got super lucky to be honest.

[–] Kimano@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I mean also isn't the hpv vaccine kinda functionally a cancer vaccine

[–] ph00p@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh boy, that could also go horribly wrong too, what if a cell is a little bit retarded in it's growth for some reason but would develop into a useful cell but, NOPE body killed it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

It could, but it's also improving on something your immune system already does. Out of all the trillions of cells undergoing division in your body all the time, a few of them go cancerous each and every day. Your immune system almost always takes them out. It's the one time out of a bajilion that things go wrong.

[–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Also, doesn't HIV mutate really quickly?