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An Italian holiday may be a priceless experience for those who have enjoyed all this country has to offer. But the summer of 2023 will go down as one of the priciest in history after a slew of price gouging scandals at cafes and restaurants that have affected foreign tourists and Italians alike.

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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it doesn't cost extra

They still have to tip you 20% otherwise you wouldn't be able to afford rent

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, they don't. If you don't make min in tips at the end of the pay period your employer literally has to pay you up to min. There's no arguing this because it's a fact. If they can't get by on that then the argument should be to raise minimum wage. Unless you're pretending to care about servers because you hate tipping it doesn't make sense to not fight for higher min wage first. That benefits everyone including servers at the end of the day. Once we've got a living wage we can start hammering restaurants to do better.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And since people can't survive on a minimum wage, not even close, I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Instead of paying the stuff their salary, restaurants offload most of this cost to customers directly, which creates whole lot of problems for everyone involved. And that's just a fact.
They can do it because the labour laws in US are abysmal, and low minimum wage is just a tip of the iceberg. But the thing is, restaurant owners don't have to treat their stuff like trash, they chose to do it because nobody is stopping them. That part of the blame is squarely on them.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Servers don't receive a lower wage than anyone else regardless of how you feel about the way they get paid. That's my point. Boosting minimum wage would help them AND everyone else. I don't know how much clearer I can be. You guys keep bringing in random things like the staff being treated badly but that's not relevant to the discussion or unique to restaurant work. I feel like you don't want to admit that you hate it because you hate tipping but there's nothing wrong with that. Just stop pretending to be protecting people that aren't generally any worse off than anyone else making minimum wage.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I you read any of the replies from people....

Did someone try to make the most annoying bot or something and that's what going on?

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read them. What specifically do you take issue with and/or where was I giving incorrect information? I've responded to some other people but they're acting like adults. Can you or should we just end it here?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read this comment chain again, if you think your response I replied to makes sense...

Then I'm not going to be able to explain to you why it doesn't.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago

Good, I didn't ask you to. 👋